With massive cuts to Healthcare it is only a matter of time before the US is fully medieval again.
This happens every so often, no big deal. We’ve gotten much better at treating it since that one time it killed everybody.
Until RFK decide those treatments cause paper cuts and bans them.
Broad spectrum antibiotics like doxycycline do wonders for infections when they aren’t everywhere all the time evolving. Thankfully the plague is rare enough it should never become an issue again.
Thankfully the plague is rare enough it should never become an issue again.
Quiet! Do you want them to MAPA? Make America Plagued Again?
Covid 2: Electric Boogaloo
They seem to be doing it whether we want it or not.
Doesn’t like over half of Europeans (and their descendants) have partial immunity because of what happened eight hundred years ago?
The plague didn’t disappear. But yes, many people did get some form of natural immunity, since no other plague outbreak in Europe had that many casualties ever again.
There are three separate biovars of blubonic plague. Each of them are associated with a historical major pandemic with high numbers of casualties: Antiqua, Medievalis, and Orientalist.
The pathogen also infects more than 200 species of animals including sheep and domestic cats.
Although fleas are the most famous vector it can also be transmitted by ticks, lice, and direct pneumonic transmission (droplet transmission of >2m). It’s theorized that the majority of plague victims in 14th century contracted the disease from pneumonic transmission.
Plague has mutated and wiped out huge amounts of the population 3 times already in history. It will likely do it again.
And that is what is frightening. A new super plague absolutely could develop that would fuck us up something fierce.
Statistically speaking:
“A new super plague WILL develop that WILL fuck us up something fierce.”
The when it will happen is where the fun is at.
Yes/No. The plague was a bacterial infection so there is not really such thing as immunity. Meaning everyone can still get the plugue. Buttttt yes there was people who had a gene that made it so their immune system was better suited to kill off the bacteria infection when they had it. By all means those people still would die, but their odds off fighting off near any bacterial infection were much higher. So for instance if they got a bacteria infection from say coughing way to much or sinus pressure causing an ear infection while having allergies, their bodies response would recognize the infection forming sooner, and start fighting it sooner/in a more effective manner. Being that the survival of the plague was significantly different for those who had such genetic difference, a lot of people who died didn’t pass down their genes that would have not had them, and the survivors who did have them were more likely to survive and breed with their non blood line and spread that gene into the population.
I guess the whole reason I said partially no was just the word immune. It’s a word that broke the belief in vaccinations in the United States (and some others I’m sure) when it came to understanding COVID vaccinations.
Would the COVID vaccination make you immune from getting the virus, no. But mRNA vaccines like that in my understanding work with the same intention of teaching your body via a protein(might not always be a protein?) to recognize a particular issue developing in the body and knowing to address that issue sooner.
That said they have developed a single shot mRNA plague “vaccine” that if those without the gene in their bloodline had, should give them the same quicker immune response to the plague, thus making them near immune to dying from the plague.
Someone more informed in case someone finds that neat, I did. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adg1036
I’d say it is immunity.
Sure, you’re not immune (as in will never get the disease itself, let alone its symptomps), but it is your immune system getting a boost.
First it was innoculation with live bacteria. Then came traditional vaccines with half-dead ones. Now it’s mRNA, meaning just the part the immune system actually needs is extracted beforehand.
Sure, it’s just wordplay that causes issues with the media/perception. Many people were saying well if you can still get COVID what’s the point of getting vaccinated, because you aren’t immune. And then those people didn’t like it if you asked them what the point of wearing a seat belt was because it doesn’t prevent you from getting into a car accident, just decreased the chance you will die or get seriously injured in the crash.
Which inevitably, ended with people then swearing off seatbelts. I agree though, it’s like giving your immune system an upgrade.
when they aren’t everywhere all the time evolving
The reason it isn’t a huge threat is isn’t because we’ve gotten so much better at treating it, it’s that our hygiene has improved so much. Y. pestis is spread primarily by flea bites from fleas that have picked up the germ from infected mice. Since we generally do our best to avoid spending time with rodents in every day life and we try to keep our house pets free of fleas, there isn’t a significant vector for the germ to infect people. The few cases we see in the states are generally outliers.
The reason it isn’t a huge threat is isn’t because we’ve gotten so much better at treating it, it’s that our hygiene has improved so much.
I mean our hygiene has gotten better, but the actual reason it isn’t that much of a threat anymore is because it’s a bacterial infection and we now have antibiotics.
Bacterial diseases are still worrisome due to some strains adapting a resistance to certain antibiotics, but they are much more manageable than viral outbreaks.
All true. I’m a little generous in how I apply the meaning of treatment and that’s a bad habit to get into. Our overall approach to prevention of disease as well as reduction in the morbidity and mortality associated with the diseases we do get has generally improved (with some notable exceptions when we take steps backward) in the last few centuries.
That one time?
Everyone forgets the plague of Justinian that killed everybody, and the late bronze age plague that killed (checks notes) everybody.
The reason why most people associate the plague with the 14th century outbreak is because of how well documented that one was, and how well preserved the documentation is. It was a worldwide plague, BTW, with it affecting Eastern Europe and the Middle East quite badly, too.
The plague of Justinian killed even more people, but it happened during the dark ages. BTW the rise of Islam and rapid conquest of the first wave of Islamic conquest probably happened as it did because of the massive drop in manpower as a result of all the deaths (that and the continuous wars between the Byzantines and Persians that also wore out the two and left them vulnerable).
What’s up, fellow that guy? Knew I was tempting fate saying it like that. I appreciate your enthusiasm for historical accuracy.
Also the hypothesized late neolithic one that also killed everyone.
Or the sweats. Lots of plagues happened besides the black death.
Right. Those two times we went extinct and had to evolve all over again.
I had bubonic plague when I was 11.
There was an outbreak in South Australia in 1983. You know those pictures of mice overrunning hay bales you see every now and then ? That’s old footage from the SA mice plague in 1983.
Telecom disconnected our phone at the street and we were told to stay in the house. Then I was transferred to the bowels of the Royal Adelaide Hospital, basement level 2, through airlocks and these people in moon suits.
They kept it secret because in 1983 people though bubonic plague was a made up medieval thing like vampires and werewolves. It wasn’t until an outbreak in India in 1991 that it became widely known as a real thing.
Wow, that was fucking intense.
Also why the hell would people think it isn’t real? Unlike vampires and werewolves, the black death was a preposterously well-documented illness.
*RFK jr heavily breathing in the background…
I can almost hear him say that the plague was defeated before the advent of vaccines and thus is proof of their ineffectiveness…
Either that or he will say we need to launch a crusade and retake the holy land.
Israel is basically that… I mean those motherfuckers even got red heifers to be sacrificed as a part of some bullshit biblical prophecy to bring about the end times. I cannot believe this shit is happening. It is almost the plot to some bad fantasy novel, except no one is stopping them and it will not bring about the end of anything. Even their own beliefs when the end times DON’T happen.
Uh, Mr. The Plague, what are you doing?
Never fear. I iz here.
Worldwide ecological disaster, you say?
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Prairie dogs aren’t friends people! They are cute and carry plague!
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