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kebab@endlesstalk.org to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 20 days ago

Trump Claims Someone May Have Forged His Signature on Birthday Letter to Epstein

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Trump Claims Someone May Have Forged His Signature on Birthday Letter to Epstein

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kebab@endlesstalk.org to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 20 days ago
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Donald Trump threw out a new rationale for his reported birthday letter to Jeffrey Epstein: Someone forged his signature.
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  • Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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    At this point, I think he’s just banking on the fact that his supporters are incredibly stupid.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      He is, and they are.

      But they’re also conspiracy theorists, and trump controls all aspects of the government.

      There’s no “deep state” left to blame, and they love hating the establishment more than they love trump or anyone else.

      He’s not going to get them to stop caring about this. And he’s not going to react well to them not doing what he wants

      • classic@fedia.io
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        You’ve just laid out the one beacon of hope in all this

        • Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub
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          Conservatives don’t let anything go.

          This trait is about to backfire brilliantly.

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            They have no problem being inconsistent.

            They’re convinced Democrats were drinking the blood of babies but have ignored Trump’s Epstein friendship, his comments about young girls and his own daughter, as well as a recording of him bragging about sexually assaulting women since the first election. They have no problem dismissing things that would otherwise confirm a Democrat would have been better.

        • MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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          How did this take 8+ fucking years?

          • pulsewidth@lemmy.world
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            Did we mention his supporters are unbelievably stupid?

            They want someone to ‘drain the swamp’ of corruption: they choose the guy who worked a lot with the mob in New York, and showers dictators with praise, while breaking the Constitution’s emoluments clause and repeatedly committing open corruption.

            They want someone to get to the bottom of the child abuse scandal surrounding Epstein: they choose his literal best friend who has been credibly accused of rape by multiple parties.

            They want a Christian to lead the country to rebuild on the faith: they choose a three time adulterer who cheated on his current wife with a porn star and made payments to keep her quiet.

            This is just the tip of the iceberg and it’s all public knowledge.

            They are dumb as rocks.

      • TallonMetroid@lemmy.world
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        If you’re going to rely on conspiracy theorists seeking to expose deep state pedophiles to sweep you into power, don’t be a deep state pedophile. You’d think this should be obvious, but apparently not.

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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          It’s actually the opposite, that’s an incredibly common and unfortunately effective strategy.

          DARVO, Randy, just got a give it a little ching wiggle.

          https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/gfwbrf/south-park-it-s-called-darvo

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      This is exactly it. The owner class thinks everyone below them is dumb as fucking rocks. They think they’re the smart ones for extracting value from people, even if they’re not terribly good at actually doing things like making money or doing business or anything like that.

      • anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Yup they’ve been huffing that “meritocracy” paint thinner for too long, a term which used to be sarcastic but everyone seems to have forgotten that part…

  • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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    Just like someone else shat in his Depends.

  • aesthelete@lemmy.world
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    Yes and I know who forged the signature, it was John Barron.

  • ProfThadBach@lemmy.world
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    Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

    Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

    Here’s the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

    —————————other Epstein Information

    https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

    Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

    Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Epstein and Israel both hired lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who says he’s building ‘legal dream team’ to defend Israel in court and on internationally | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

    Epstein Docs: https://ia600705.us.archive.org/21/items/epsteindocs/

    Epstein Bribes/Payments: 1 BILLION+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IrEi-ybzs

    —————————other Trump information:

    Here’s trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY

    Trump’s promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

    Trump’s modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

    A good summary of Trump-Epstein timeline: https://thepresidential.medium.com/we-have-been-gaslit-about-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-for-four-years-fbda67c20f75

    • ⁠Much of this info can also be found on: https://theepsteindocs.com/

    Feel free to do your part and spread this info around so it is never “lost”.

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    • GhostMutt@lemmy.zip
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      Woah! A JtHM reference in the wild!

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        Squee!

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    He’s starting to look like the good old Iraqi Information Minister in these photos. Good.

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    This just in - Trump claims homework must have been eaten. Dog calls claims ridiculous and speciesist.

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    Where are we on this one?

    • That didn’t happen
    • And if it did, it wasn’t that bad
    • And if it was, that’s not a big deal
    • And if it is, that’s not my fault <— I’m guessing here
    • And if it was, I didn’t mean it
    • And if I did, you deserved it
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      I think he’s just going for the good old “it wasn’t me” joker

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        Ah, the good old shaggy defence.
        🎵"They caught me grifting, it wasn’t me. I had to go bankrupt, it wasn’t me. They saw me raping, it wasn’t me. They filmed a piss tape, it wasn’t me.🎶

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    I have no doubts in my mind that trump and Epstein were as good friends as two narcissistic assholes are capable of being.

    But it’s also pretty damn clear to me that trump isn’t exactly the letter-writing type.

    I suspect how this all played out is that Maxwell was putting together this book for Epstein, and reached out to trump for his contribution

    And so trump had some lackey throw together something appropriately sleazy for it and just signed it wherever he was told to sign.

    And I don’t think that’s even just a trump thing, I’m pretty sure just about any celebrity, politician, etc. has staff whose job is to answer mail for them.

    And he’s too much of a moron and narcissistic asshole to say that, so instead he’s going all-in on it being forged.

    But if he were someone with a half functioning brain, that’s all he would need to say “I am a very busy man, so I can’t remember every piece of mail I sent 20 years ago, I probably had an intern write it for me, and I just signed where they told me to, I probably didn’t even read it, I trusted my staff to write a good letter because I have the best people working for me”

    And boom totally plausible, keeps the whole thing at arms-length from himself, and probably pretty damn close to the truth.

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