With the end of physical PlayStation games looming, the need for clear digital ownership rights is more pressing than ever.
For its part, Sony believes your rights are very clear: you do not own your digital games, and it’s unlikely you’re stupid enough to believe otherwise. At least, that’s roughly the argument the company’s lawyers are presenting in response to a proposed class-action lawsuit.
Sony argues that its current customer-facing disclosures ensure that “reasonable consumers would not be misled” into believing they actually own their digital games. That’s according to a Game File report (paid article link) citing an August 21 filing Sony’s lawyers made in California’s Northern District.
Wish people could actually have the willpower to effectively boycott anything enough to later. Happens with iPhone every year, they bitch and moan about it being the hand phone, then go buy one.
Sounds like they went to the Donald Trump school of logic.
Until they change every storefront to say rent instead of buy/purchase/etc I will believe it.
Sony said click “Agree” when downloading.
Sadly, they’re not wrong.
Sony has been going to shit at LEAST ever since their fucking 2011 hack and online shutdown. Endless stupid decisions one after another. Trash.
There is credible evidence to believe that after Sony JP fumbled the PS3 launch, and was losing market share to the Xbox 360, Sony US stepped in and took the reins after righting the ship in the latter half of that console generation.
This is what I predominantly blame for the myriad of bad (anti-consumer) decisions made from the PS4 onwards.
This makes my choice to stop at the ps3 a very good choice.
Right, like, how “owning” a car means that you need to purchase the entire means of production required to produce said car, including all patents and trademarks.
This guy is somehow multi-rail drifting his pseudo-capitalist argument with like, a cartoon version of communism. It’s like he dropped acid and decided to become Frankenstein’s Economist.
Or if you buy a print copy of a famous art work you some how don’t own it because it’s a copy?
Or a book is a good analogue. I can own a copy of a book, a reprint. It’s mine.
sony’s even considered a game publisher… ya know, just like random house is a book publisher.
Do they want piracy? Because that’s how you make it morally legitimate.
Just do it.
That’s not what ownership of digital copies means, fuckshits.
Sony argues that its current customer-facing disclosures ensure that “reasonable consumers would not be misled” into believing they actually own their digital games.
They can make that argument, but I think they’ll have a hard time finding evidence to support it. Judges aren’t stupid, but they can be corrupt, however.
SOME judges are stupid. Just look up the name of ±any trump appointed judge in the news.
So by that logic, I am the only owner of a 2016 Subaru Impreza in the entire world.
I think the reasoning is that there’s only 1 master, and everything else is a copy. But that’s still pretty stupid reasoning.
But at the same time… It’s also technically true. Only 1 entity owns the game and that’s the entity that made it.
So nobody actually owns books as they are copies of a digital master.
Not true.
Some are copies of a physical master. 😌
It really puts into perspective how they actually think about it though… nobody actually thinks that way…
Nobody buying a game sits there and says oh I’m going to go buy gta6… and thinks they are buying the single master… no most people say im going to go pick up my copy of gta6… the one they want to own…
The fact they want to argue that people don’t think the thing they spent money on to own gives them some absurd right to the master single version of the game is just…
There were final prototypes of the 2016 Subaru Impreza and all the others are copies off of that.
Just admit it: I am Mr. Subaru now! /s
You made this?
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I made this.
“You can’t, like, own a digital title, man. Like, if you, like, play a game it doesn’t make it your game, you know, it’s God’s game, man! It’s God’s game!”
The solution seems easy enough, don’t buy or rent anything from Sony until the issue is resolved.
This is fixable if consumers band together. Nobody needs to game on a PlayStation (or play GTA on PC/PlayStation), we need water, food, shelter not GTA6
The solution seems easy enough, don’t buy or rent anything from Sony until the issue is resolved.
This will never work in America. I know people who already bought a PS5 just for this and pre-ordered (!) the game at $1000000 or whatever they’re charging.
People are too inundated with what the newest Thing™ is to actually give a shit about living conditions, it seems like. Deep rooted and normalized conservatism about how things are seems to be most people’s modus operandi.
If there’s a new game, we gotta buy it. I want fifa 2027, it will bring me so much satisfaction over fifa 2026.
Ohhh new ps6 pro? Which is better than my 1000 bucks brand new ps6? We gotta buy it.
/s
Sure, we have to enjoy something and spend some money but I can’t fathom how people keep spending like that.
I think I never purchased any new new device or game less than 4 years before my last purchase of an older device or game of the same type. And some have lasted 10 years, or even more, for an e-reader.
I may be wrong about games but can’t think of one atm.
I think part of the blame is Google’s, even before they turned evil: our average attention span is fucking low, and we only want instant gratification now. We used to need to read, to explore in games, to fail and try again before beating the game, before knowing the answer to something, and then suddenly we could magically get the answers we seeked in a matter of seconds.
It feels to me like speedrunners and challenge-runners of retro games show us how things can be enjoyed way more than just the first playthrough or the second.
They’re enjoying the hell out of a good game, even if old, while most others are seeking the dopamine of new and mostly ephemeral shit.
I am not part of either group, but I want to be part of the first, in some ways, and never the second.
80 or 100. You were way off
don’t buy or rent anything from Sony until the issue is resolved.
Way ahead of you. And I don’t see a point in buying anything from them even if there is a resolution. You don’t own the hardware, the software is a moot point.
Nobody needs to game on a PlayStation (or play GTA on PC/PlayStation), we need water, food, shelter not GTA6
At face value this seems true, but I’m not so sure it’s that simple. I know, it sounds crazy, but let me explain.
In life, we obviously need water, food, and shelter. However, we can’t spend our entire lives only drinking, eating, and sleeping. There has to be more to life than that, otherwise it will result in increased suffering.
Without hobbies (yes, gaming is of course a hobby), life would be a lot more dull, and many people would feel it’s less worth living. Decreased leisure time/recreational activities time (like time spent gaming) has been linked to increased rates of depression and increased levels of stress. Both of these things can have a profound negative impact on your health and can even result in death.
So while it seems true, I can’t help but think it’s also a little bit reductionist. It does seem to downplay the essential nature of having hobbies, of having something you actually enjoy doing in life.
Then again, you could argue that you don’t need a PlayStation or GTA on PC/PlayStation to accomplish this since there’s so many other games to play, which is fair. I understand that companies like Sony and Rockstar need to be held accountable for the awful things that they do. I just thought I should point out that leisure, and yes hobbies like gaming, are actually pretty essential in a way, and shouldn’t be downplayed in importance.
I get that this is probably an unpopular take, but I don’t think that makes it untrue either.
yeah I wish people understood the blackout only works if you keep doing it. a company like Sony isn’t gonna panic if people stop playing their games for a week. happy to state I was never interested in their stuff in the first place so I’ve haven’t been giving em money ever. I do wish we could get a bloodborne pc port tho
if only one person can buy GTA 6, how can more than one person rent GTA 6?
The answer is always the human centipede
It’s not Lupus.
Patient gaming in a nutshell.
Son it’s time we talked about fractional reserve banking
So lets say one person owns it then through the magic of technology everybody else is playing their shared version
Most people assume they own the rights, and if not, should.
