• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    The title seems to be generating confusion, but the author’s point is that there are billionaire oligarchs (not just Trump, people whose power is not term-limited) pushing to gain control of Canada’s resources. He’s not talking about ordinary Americans nor is he necessarily talking about an invasion or a war.

    The playbook here is generally to apply economic pressure with the aim of causing political discontent, while at the same time financing an opposition faction that’s more pliable, like they’re doing against Cuba, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.

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    I’m American (unfortunately) and I want no part in annexing any country. I actually can’t recall anyone else here who does… Well except big orange wrinkly pimples in DC.

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    And i am very serious about killing any doodle who sets foot in this country with that intent.

    I don’t care if i die.

    I am not living undet the rule of people who worship curtis yarvin.

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      Plenty of Americans are hoping a dumb ass move like that is enough to weaken the morons in charge and join your side.

      Like both coasts and most of the bordering states would have majorities on Canada’s side.

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      MAGA dipshits severely underestimate how many Canadians would actually enjoy taking a break from the rat race to repel invaders.

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            Yupp…

            Act 1 US war of independence founded modern Canada because a) the quebecois ever fearful of cultural erasure, ever relevant today given those US demands, b) those not in favour of a racist dictatorship (yes the anglosphere was turning their backs on a monster they helped create), my family moved to loyalist country, fitting, and c) Britain’s desire to legitimize presence by recognizing first nations,… founded canada. The US invaded thinking we would join but Quebec and the indigenous wanted nothing to do with that genocidal regime. An asymetrical response ended American interests.

            Act 2 The war of 1812, the US claims they kinda won because they genocided the Iroquois nation and paved a way for continental-scale genocide … but another goal was conquest of Canada. A goal they failed on every county…britain, its loyalists, and later founders of Canada fought back and said fuck you. Canada 100% repelled the US invasion using asymmetrical warfare.

            Act 3 Fuck around and find out.

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              I think they’d find out Washington Stste, Minnesota, Michigan, Maine, Vermont, New York and probably Massachusetts, California and Oregon would all join Canadian resistance.

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              Act 2 the US claims they kinda won? Is that not the war that is not taught in schools down there because Canada got shit faced and burnt down the white house.

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          I don’t think you can say that if you’ve never been invaded/occupied by a superior army.

          Maybe come over to vietnam and go to some museums or talk to some people if you want to know what asym warfare is like.

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      Well you better call it a whoopsie doodle or I’m gonna cry. Do you really want making me cry on your conscience after that?

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      I wouldn’t. Why conduct the destructive mess that is a war in our own living room?

      I’d contribute to any effort to make long range drones that strike energy and electronic infrastructure deep inside the US instead.

      Keep the destruction over there. Watch American arrogance melt away as they realize that fighting a war isn’t just some thing they send troops elsewhere to die over while they get to stay comfy and safe at home anymore.

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        The answer is going to be both.

        Drones are the future of warfare. Ukraine has proven that.

        But if the US decides to invade, it absolutely WILL send troops over the border. And we’ll be there, shooting them down. Carney may have to undo Trudeau’s silly handgun restrictions for us RPAL holders for the good of Canada.

        I’m too old to be a soldier, but I can still hold a rifle. I’m not a violent person, but I will defend my country. I don’t believe that most people in the US support this, but I will shoot to kill any that come across the border with plans to invade.

        In my nearly 60 years on this planet, this is the first time I’ve said I will die defending my country.

        So yes, in a situation of war we support drones. We support attacks deep within US territory, rather than traditional face-to-face combat.

        But we will do whatever it takes to protect our country.

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          Almost 70 and cannot walk but 2 metres at a time. Strap a bomb to my scooter and I will drive into a bunch of em and blow them up.

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        If they’re in your living room, they’re in effective control of your area. At that point there will not be long-range drones going (maybe coming in), there will only be direct action by the local populace.

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    The americans largely don’t give a shit. But trump will probably, if he hasn’t already tried to, give the order to invade canada, and some military folk might well do it.

    I actually kinda think that’s the game plan for 2028 elections, if he’s still ticking. Which he probably will be, even if as a mostly-vegetable.

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      trump needs consistent distraction from epstein files, since all the other ones have lost thier magic, canada was the first and currently distraction.

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    Nah, they’re not. Orange Fatass just wants you to stop talking about his 30 year relationship with the guy who sold child sex slaves.

    Of course, Canada should still be prepared against psyops and whatnot, but Trump will never invade a NATO country.

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    Yeah that’s the thing you have to remember about this flood the Zone shit Trump does. None of it’s a distraction. All of it’s a distraction. Both at the same time. He means it all.

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    I’m not. I just want to visit to get a break from this bullshit, eat some poutine, and fuck back off to my little corner of this mess.

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    I’m 51 and would murder every single American that entered here and tried to take away my country, freedom and my family.

    I’d die, but I’d hopefully murder a fuckload of yanks before that.

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    I’m not sure the US, with all their “military might” are actually ready to face a war against a border enemy that’s not an underdeveloped country and that is expert on their own terrain and also very dispersed. You can’t just throw a bomb in Canada and kill thousands because I’m not sure you’ll find a thousand people living close to each other in the first place.

    Meanwhile, if Canada wanted to reply in kind, they’d just need to send a swarm of drones to any close city like New York and cause a massacre. However, I’m pretty sure it won’t be needed because if pedohitler decides to invade Canada, they’d make half of the US side with Canada.

    I don’t want a new war to burst, but hell if I’d not like it to happen and see Magastan get its ass whooped.

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    I don’t like guns but I am a very good shot with a rifle. I’m also a menopausal woman. I fucking dare him.

    Isn’t it a point of honour with these creeps that an enemy has never set foot on American soil? Bet.

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    If the morons come here there are many of us ready to ‘receive’ them. Won’t need too much to prepare because they will bring everything with them that we need. We will make Vietnam look like a volleyball tournament.

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    I could see it happening in bite sized pieces. Just like Ukraine really. Annex a small area, wait till the protests die down then repeat. I’m sure Vladimir would be cheering that on. After all great nuclear powers do whatever they want, don’t they.

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      They’ll be aiming to crush Canada economically until Albertans are sure they want to go it alone. Then they can start physically dismantling the country, starting with Alberta, and intensifying the economic pressure on the rest until Canada submits to de facto US rule. They can formalize it later with humilitating treaties and guns.

      Canada needs to work quickly on economic and military independence. Our whole international position needs to change before the USA really gets going with the program. And Canada needs to figure out how to make it very painful for the USA if it attempts anything. If ever the USA invades, we need to already be there inside their country, physically and virtually, making life hard for them in surprising ways. And we need to build up alliances until they’re so strong that it becomes uncomfortable for our allies to flake out and go along with the USA.

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      Yeah the people in here who are imagining some kind of WW2-esque total-war scenario are not living in reality…

      I mean, I get it. It’s heroic and satisfying to imagine oneself going down in a blaze of glory or getting into a firefight or a slugfest with a bunch of boots-on-the-ground foreign invaders, but that’s not the century we’re in.

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      Yeah but like the Ukranians Canada will keep up the fight,Canada is not going to be pushed around and the US has this habit of having the white house being burnt down when they try and invade us, Trump has already laid the groundwork for it to start.

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    blah blah blahyadda yadda yadda hype hype hype.

    They might be serious about WANTING to annex Canada, the same way the Quebec separatists WANTED to separate from Canada, but serious about actually DOING it? When push comes to shove, they never actually get around to DOING it. They always want someone ELSE to do it.

    When it comes right down to it, what they REALLY want, is attention.

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      Also this war would be different. A bunch of English speaking Canadians (and English speaking supporters) bad mouthing the us on the news. Would look awful bad for them. They are only used to non English bad mouthing them during a war which is easier to suppress in the news.