Also Peter Thiel.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    EOTWAWKI has always been a mythical fantasy, including the futuristic interpretation of Revelation regarding the second advent.

    This is really the only way that cults in their late and isolated stages can hold together, not only that the end is neigh, but that it is imminent, a few month’s away at longest.

    And that is because the devout are expected to be squeezed. They’re expected to toil to breaking for sake of the community and their leader.

    In the cases of communes like Jonestown and the Branch Davidian compound, there’s always a dire labor shortage. There’s consistently more work to do than can be done by the labor force available to make sure everyone is fed, housed, treated for illness, clothed and so on.

    Exploited labor cannot work under pressed conditions for super long, but giving them a hard deadline weeks or days away, helps a bunch. Doubly so if it comes with a guarantee of eternal bliss (or a UFO ride to join the space aliens).

    Naturally, at least for all cases so far, the deadline comes and goes. This is usually when the prophets recompute and provide another deadline. Again it can only be a little bit longer. Even a year later and it’s too much to ask.

    With each passing doomsday that doesn’t manifest, the cultists get more antsy like the crew of the Abraham Lincoln. Suicide and apostasy rates rise, then soar. Discontent heats up in the community, as each false apocalypse deteriorates confidence in the next one.

    Eventually, something has to crack. In the 20th century US, reports leak to the authorities about the poor conditions and the abuse (there always is, in a large enough population), and in the face of intervention, the cult leader goes scorched earth like the Nero Decree.

    In the meantime, the list of failed apocalypse predictions grows ever longer without any yet coming to fruition.

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    Keep your god out of the government you stupid brainwashed fucktard!

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    Every religion and therefore every god forbids killing babies. If you worship anything, it is ultimately Satan that you worship.

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    I get a bit confused listening to some a Christians talk about the end times. According to the Bible, we already live in the end times. The end times are not some dial some people are twisting one way and some people are twisting the other.

    I think some people believe that God has a checklist, and he’s waiting for all the monkeys to essentially random chance Hamlet of of a typewriter, with all the hoops and conditions needed to bring about the end of the world. If your eschatology is Twitch Plays Pokémon, try again.

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    I don’t want to hear anyone ever again try to tell me that women can’t be good leaders because they are too emotional or delusional. Look at this weirdo.

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    Sure but if someone says: “I’m just trying to focus on doing god’s work. If that leads to Vance’s neck doing the same thing that Charlie Kirk’s did, that’s ok.”, then they get a visit from the SS.

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    If you say the things these people say, but in Arabic, they are indistinguishable from bin laden, Khomeini, KSM, and all the other religious extremists that the US fears.

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      You know… this might be in bad taste perhaps. But maybe… taking what these dipshits say, translating it to Arabic and overlaying it on a photo of the aforementioned, then putting it on Facebook, but be like “Can you believe what they’re saying…” or “Not in my country!” or something. Once it’s big enough, it’ll come out naturally that Bin Laden didn’t say it, the quote is some MAGA member saying it… idk, I think it might at least reach a few people once the messages are reframed/re-contextualized.

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        The gotcha style of persuasion doesn’t really work in terms of getting people to reconsider their stance. It doesn’t change people’s opinion because it’s a cheap and obvious gimmick. Feels good for you and people who already are aligned, basically the perfect example of an ideological circle jerk.

        While it’s hard to change some ones mind if they aren’t open to change, it’s also easy to turn people away from your cause if they see you aren’t being genuine.

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        You give far too much faith on the general population’s ability or willingness to actually read (and for the social media sites willingness to allow it to spread)

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          I’ve certainly seen this type of deliberate misinformation spreading before. People making fake stories to see how far/fast they spread.

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            It was a big thing a few years back to post a Mao quote over Nixon’s face, usually with more comedic intent than any actual message

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    The Bible starts and ends with the slaughter of the unrighteous, which means you.

    When Jesus returns, He will be accompanied by legions of angels, and they will butcher every non-believer. The resulting lake of blood will be miles wide and “as deep as a horse’s bridle”.

    Then, they will cast all of the non-Christians into Hell for eternal torture.

    That is Christianity.

    (Islam and Judaism are no better, they all revel in the murder of the non-believers)

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        For the beginning part: Genesis 6:5–7 Genesis 7:21–23 (Where all humans except Noahs family, die)

        For the ending: Matthew 13:40–42 (Where angels come and cast the wicked into fiery furnace) Matthew 13:49–50 (Same) Matthew 16:27 (Jesus comes with an army of angels to serve people based on their deeds) Matthew 25:31–46 (The final judgement) 2 Thessalonians 1:7–10 (Jesus brings punishment to those who do not obey the gospel) Revelation 19:11–21 (Jesus defeats armies of those opposing, depicting corpses getting eaten by birds, etc) And there are like 20 other at least.

        And in Judaism, basically, instead of the son of god doing the killings, it’s the jews which are sent by god to slaughter the rest, similar as in Islam.

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          These guys do know that ol’ J canonically considered their misanthropic money grubbing to be highest orders of magnitude"wicked", yah?

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            Jesus was a hypocrite, and likely a schizophrenic.

            Christ was rubbing oil on His feet. Someone commented about Him giving that to the poor (oil was valuable). Christ said (paraphrase) “There will always be poor, and there’s only one me”.

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            No, they don’t. The same lack of insight and self-reflection that might contribute to being fervently religious, also contributes to them not understanding how anything that they do could be wrong.

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        Bible is absolutely full of insane ramblings.

        Georgimus, “Can you, like, qualify the Bible is fucking bonkers?”

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    Because their religion tells them they can fuck up this world and when it ends, they get into paradise because God will give them a universal Mulligan.

    Reality: nothing happens, they become high fat worm food, then high fat worm shit.

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    I mean, christianism was an apocalyptic cult that though that the world was going to end at around 100 aD

    They are almost 2000 years late with their gran finale.