Thousands of Southern Baptists overwhelmingly voted Wednesday to advance a formal ban on women pastors in the nation’s largest Protestant denomination, sending a clear message that men alone should preach to these conservative evangelical congregations.

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    Everyone who’s been to a church knows how vitally important the speaker’s pennis is to the sermon.

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    What’s the point of having two catholic churches? This is removing the SB’s only marketing niche.

    Southern Baptists:

    • full of pedophiles
    • has women pastors

    Catholic Church

    • full of pedophiles
    • no women priests
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    I vote to ban churches and all religious buildings.

    Hell, ban religions. The world would be such a better place without the stoneage fairytales

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    Remember, the Southern Baptists split from the mainstream Baptist Church because they supported enslavement.

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      yep. it’s funny the comments here being all mad. like… you want a extremist/fundamentalist sect to what… be shockingly progressive on this one issue? kind of a silly expectation.

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    Considering the vote was over 2/3 in favour of the motion, a lot of women would have voted in support of it. I don’t support it, but I’m also not a baptist.

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      I’m also not a baptist.

      …and you’re especially not a Southern Baptist, the most fundamentalist mainstream flavor of the baptists. The Bible says a lot of things, and every sect picks and chooses favorites, in this case there’s a verse about not permitting a woman to teach or hold authority over a man that’s probably relevant.

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      Its not surprising to me at all. Christianity is a patriarchal religion the same way all Abrahamic religions are. It’s like kind of the point.

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          Many Christian sects also have female leaders. The Episcopal Church comes to mind as one of the bigger ones. The Southern Baptists would say Episcopalianism is not Christianity, though. Hell, I think that’s even their stance on Catholicism.

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            Episcopalians are the wealthiest sect of Christianity, they value education and intellectualism, like the many Jewish sects do.

            In other words, they are godless heathens…

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            Without doing any research, I would say you are correct. They generally have a problem with Catholic saints, among other things.

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            (grunt) me intellectual Lemming. Me very smart. I see ‘relijun bad always’, I upvote! I think for self. I want upvote too! (Grunt)

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      Probably more like 75%. There are many self hating gays that think banning it will “fix” them rather than living their best life

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      Lmao they aren’t alienating themself from the majority of their members at all. You know which churches have women pastors? The same ones that let queers in and talk about “accepting” people.

      I grew up going to a Southern Baptist church. This decision will not be unpopular.

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    What do you expect from people who follow a 2,000+ year old book written by people we’d consider insane if we tried to speak with them today. It offers zero proof of its god and no one to this day has been able to bring any evidence. The bible’s been rewritten over a dozen times under the influence of kings with their own agendas. Yet somehow this work of fiction (by all applicable standards it should be) is what these people form their lives around. They magically always find a way to interpret its passages to support their own biases. Regardless of the amazing ideas philosophy and science have brought to humanity, they keep retreating to the magical thinking of the past. Of course they hate progress like women having power in their little club.

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    The same men telling women in the SBC to get out of the pulpit are the same men telling the victims of sexual offenses in SBC churches to shut up and get over it.

    While women may have held a quieter role in supporting the pedo/rapey shit that goes down in the SBC and maybe still do, the VAST list of SCB sexual offenders and their protectors is made of men, the internal hierarchy of power is rigid and unyielding, and for as much concerned pearl-clutching as SBC leaders engage in every time it hits the news, which it does frequently, they still haven’t really done anything to slow it down. A couple of these articles are older, but nothing substantial has changed:

    20 years, 700 victims: Southern Baptist sexual abuse spreads as leaders resist reforms – Houston Chronicle

    How an Alleged Predator Remade the Southern Baptist Convention – Texas Monthly

    New Lawsuit: Paige Patterson, former Southern Baptist leader, humiliated woman who reported rape – Houston Chronicle

    Read these at your own risk: they are thoroughly sickening. But there is a pattern: for every individual who is harmed, there appears to be a machine ready to shut them down, one that was operative as far back as the 1970s.

    So knowing what I know about what goes down in the SBC and has for decades, when I see a headline like the above, “Southern Baptists vote to advance a formal ban on churches with women pastors,” I don’t see it as having anything primarily to do with doctrine, especially since if the doctrine were that important there would be any number of things they’d already be doing differently.

    Rather, I see a group of predators seeking to ensure that their hunting grounds remain fresh, open, and uncluttered with victims they have already used and/or anyone who would speak for them or act on their behalf.

    I’m not a Christian and I have no dog in this hunt, but if there was ever a religious organization that desperately needs to be stopped on its institutional slide back to the 1950s (or 1750s), the SBC would absolutely be it.