Except that for all of her anti-trans stuff, she never advocated for killing trans people or anything of the sort. Or did I miss something?
EDIT: Holy shit, so many downvotes for an honest and open question? I fully realize that what she advocates for is harmful (which was what I alluded to in my original question), but there’s still quite a difference between that and advocating for the murder of every trans person, jfc.
If you take healthcare away from trans people, suicide numbers go up. And she wants to take healthcare away from trans people and shove us back in the closet. She’s chosen to attack kids, the most vulnerable of us. I believe she’s already taken lives through her lobbying.
So, a common metric people bring up in discussions of trans people that make their way into politics is ‘trans suicide rates’. Right-wingers tend to mention it in reference to “We shouldn’t let anyone be trans, because trans people commit suicide often,” and left-wingers tend to argue “Trans suicide is so high because they get degraded by society, and aren’t allowed to express themselves.”
Edit: As for why it gets mentioned, transgenders overall commit suicide far more often than the average population.
thanks, i’m reading this link and looking for data about suicide rates. this report is talking about a collection of self-reported data about suicidal thoughts, which many people can have and fortunately not go through with it.
I also see a statistically significant correlation, and i’m still looking for a reliable causation and data on suicide rates. how do we know if the lack of gender affirming care directly leads to increased suicides in a systemic pattern? perhaps the same people who cannot access it also are likely to have other things in life that could cause terrible suicidal thoughts or actions. i’m wondering how we can rule this out.
You want causation? How about a study that looked at the suicide attempts per year before and after anti-trans state laws were passed? https://doi.org/10.1038/s41562-024-01979-5
good for them for having such a large sample size. i admit i’m confused though, the results are an increase “by 7–72%.”? i wonder what is up with this huge range. how can we have confidence in this?
i wish the abstract explained what types of anti-trans laws were passed, cause of course different laws end up having different effects. that could explain the uncertainty in the results range. in this case we’re concerned with how a lack of gender affirming care would directly influence systematic suicide rates, so I’m still looking out for more evidence on that topic.
Except that for all of her anti-trans stuff, she never advocated for killing trans people or anything of the sort. Or did I miss something?
EDIT: Holy shit, so many downvotes for an honest and open question? I fully realize that what she advocates for is harmful (which was what I alluded to in my original question), but there’s still quite a difference between that and advocating for the murder of every trans person, jfc.
If you take healthcare away from trans people, suicide numbers go up. And she wants to take healthcare away from trans people and shove us back in the closet. She’s chosen to attack kids, the most vulnerable of us. I believe she’s already taken lives through her lobbying.
the suicide numbers go up?
So, a common metric people bring up in discussions of trans people that make their way into politics is ‘trans suicide rates’. Right-wingers tend to mention it in reference to “We shouldn’t let anyone be trans, because trans people commit suicide often,” and left-wingers tend to argue “Trans suicide is so high because they get degraded by society, and aren’t allowed to express themselves.”
Edit: As for why it gets mentioned, transgenders overall commit suicide far more often than the average population.
so different people have different “explanations” for the suicide rates. has there been any unbiased evidence to explain it?
Yeah, sure. Here’s some research by the government that assessed the impact of gender affirming care and legal recognition on suicidal thoughts. More healthcare meant fewer suicidal thoughts. https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/population-groups/lgbtqia-sb-people/gender-affirmation
thanks, i’m reading this link and looking for data about suicide rates. this report is talking about a collection of self-reported data about suicidal thoughts, which many people can have and fortunately not go through with it.
I also see a statistically significant correlation, and i’m still looking for a reliable causation and data on suicide rates. how do we know if the lack of gender affirming care directly leads to increased suicides in a systemic pattern? perhaps the same people who cannot access it also are likely to have other things in life that could cause terrible suicidal thoughts or actions. i’m wondering how we can rule this out.
You want causation? How about a study that looked at the suicide attempts per year before and after anti-trans state laws were passed? https://doi.org/10.1038/s41562-024-01979-5
good for them for having such a large sample size. i admit i’m confused though, the results are an increase “by 7–72%.”? i wonder what is up with this huge range. how can we have confidence in this?
i wish the abstract explained what types of anti-trans laws were passed, cause of course different laws end up having different effects. that could explain the uncertainty in the results range. in this case we’re concerned with how a lack of gender affirming care would directly influence systematic suicide rates, so I’m still looking out for more evidence on that topic.