https://x.com/i/status/1948211079001051267
The GOP chair was caught off guard and scrambled—first delaying the vote, then trying to sabotage it by adding amendments to include Biden administration communications. Democrats called their bluff and agreed.
Then the GOP chair, Rep. Higgins, lied, claiming the motion FAILED until Rep. Robert Garcia forced a full roll call vote.
Ultimately, the vote passed 8-2 after 3 Republicans DEFIED their leadership and joined all 5 Democrats to pass the motion.
Just browsed r/conservative for a bit to see the response there. Pleasantly surprised to see multiple posts where the top comment was something along the lines of “release everything, don’t care who is affected on either side”
They made us think it was conservative versus progressive. Democrat vs Republican.
It always was the elite versus the people
It’s also humans with morals vs. Conservatives. None of this would work if conservatives didn’t salivate at the thought of making others suffer.
No, you are supposed to hate conservatives 🫵😲
Are we supposed to forget they put Trump in power twice? A few people on the internet hardly encompasses conservatives.
Yes yes. Let the hate flow through you.
Yes! We just have to hate them harder than they hate us to win.
Politics 101
Yeah, that’s them. Get em, boy
They work really fucking hard to make that so easy.
They even fucking lied?
Then the GOP chair, Rep. Higgins, lied, claiming the motion FAILED
I’m not holding my breath but I’m really hoping that will help maga chuds clue in that the GOP are wholly dishonest.
10% of them saying it was wrong is the best we’ll get. Him being charged with treason is what it should be
The video was fun to watch to watch.
If my understanding is right, it just means this sub committee will now subpoena all documents. Not like it will be available to everybody, just available to the lawmakers. You must be a real pedophile-ophile to want to block your committee from having knowledge.
Can someone explain to this non-american why the Democrats are treating this as a successful upset when they could have released the Epstein files during Biden?
Because they COULDN’T release them under Biden. They were sealed by court order until January 2025.
There is a lot of desperate “both sides” nonsense going on here but the fact remains, Democrats are voting to release them and Republicans are not. If Democrats wanted to cover them up, why would they be doing that?
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Its a PR stunt. The democratic establishment doesn’t want them released.
That makes no fucking sense whatsoever. Why would they overwhelmingly vote to realease them then?
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Because your feelings, right?
Who, me? look, all I’m saying is that the public at large can’t grasp that not everyone who walked past Epstein on the street is a full blow child sex trafficker. They will assume every single person he knew is full guilty when that’s just not how criminal conspiracy works, I wouldn’t be shocked to find only Him, Maxwell, Prince Andrew, and Trump were raping children.
Biden likely would have never released it because his donors are on the list, also the general public on the US, if you haven’t caught on yet are like 30% complete idiots. A good example of this is that many people in comments on Instagram or other social media have said ‘‘why would anyone even willingly fly on a plane called ‘the Lolita express’?’’ Because they can’t figure out that the press started calling Epstine’s plane that long after the accusations and convictions were over with. They’re even more confused that the pilot of the plant never saw ANY sexual behavior or implied sexual relationship of any minors on the plane or even adults on the plane. How couldn’t he tell?! Because Epstine was a blackmail con man, not a ‘‘hay everybody here’s all my dirty secrets! Look at this! It’s incriminating!’’ Man. Blackmail necessitates obfuscation, and likewise gaining access to wealthy targets ment he ALSO needs to appear harmless and well connected to other wealthy people, who only saw normal behavior. So this list, the flight logs, even the island visitors, will all be at the very least 50% innocent people, if not way higher numbers. You only need a few successful targets to get by with blackmail and if the targets all have lots of money and know eachother the last thing you want is for them to be aware your blackmailing them all at once. And if he never did blackmail and just ran a pedophile ring, the level of secrecy would still be crazy high and he’d still want to look innocent to the majority of people he knew that’s how all child abusers and rapists in general tend to behave.
30% feels generously low.
I’d say the people making shit up and are unaware of the files being sealed are the ACTUAL idiots.
… ok.
Piss poor response. If you’re too immature to admit being wrong, that’s on you, don’t put it on us.
Wrong about what? I was simply saying that i think well over 30% of Americans are stupid. The fuck are you talking about?
Biden likely would have never released it because his donors are on the list
Biden wasn’t able to release it because a judge sealed it as part on an ongoing investigation. Don’t let that stop your ridiculous conspiracy theories.
The same “donors” would likely also support the Democrats now voting to release them.
I’m saying if he was still president, not in the past. also my whole point is that the list is half or more full of innocent names, but people at large won’t be able to grasp that, so it will paint otherwise innocent people as involved in a pedophile sex ring or trafficking, or as blackmail targets when they did none of those things.
I don’t see anyone saying this yet, but the Epstein files were sealed by a court order for Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial. They weren’t unsealed until January of 2025. Biden couldn’t have released them without violating the court order that sealed them - and possibly giving Ghislaine’s lawyers a slam dunk to get her off with a mistrial.
Here is seems to be at the discretion of the Attorney General. Why didn’t Merrick Garland unseal them in September 2024 after her appeal failed?
Merrick Garland is a hard core libertarian centrist and Biden appreciated him for being status quo which means not rocking the boat or doing any effort to to hold anyone rich accountable as his previous bosses were BP and Amazon.
He also refused to prosecute Matt Gaetz.
Not a good enough excuse IMHO.
You expected a shitty person to expose his shitty friends? Lmao
He didn’t have the ability to release the files. Will you idiots ever fucking listen?
It’s not a good excuse. Until Americans guillotine these fuckers, they will just continue to do what they want, law be damned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZhZs69RvFM
Read his link. There’s nothing in there to indicate that Garland could’ve released then in 2024.
That does nothing to change the reality of his character or negate his lack of action i pointed out above.
Why did he actually not do anything? Who can say?
Why did he actually not do anything? Who can say?
I can. The files were under seal by order of a judge.
the single person who voted no: “In the opinion of the chair the nos have it”
the multiple people who voted “yes” laugh at the absurdity and call him out on it
how fucking brazen a liar
Trust me bro one more rape charge on the rapist king and we beat fscist trust me bro. It will be a bombshell when everyone finds out what they already know and they SLAM him. One more scandal and we defeat facism trust me bro.
It’ll be far, far from the nail in the coffin, but we’re already seeing promising movement among what was normally staunch Trump supporters.
It’s only one avenue to follow though. We still have to do what we can wherever we can.
Lmao people say this every time, nothing changes.
Yeah, you’re not wrong - I’m not counting on it, by any stretch.
But I can hope.
According to who? People on Lemmy/reddit? Wake the fuck up. People on these sites live in a bubble and have no idea what the average person’s opinion is on things.
“The no has it” are you fucking kidding me.
Bruh this isn’t the first time Higgens has tried this shit either. I find him specifically so infuriating.
Too soon to say but spine growth in the dems?
nah, opportunistic as ever. Main goal here is to stick it to republicans not some “principles”
They think the Epstein thing might actually stick this time. They’re trying to use that as best they can. Any party would do that
It might be a strong move for once though. Time will tell.
I’m going to ask a honest question because I don’t know the answer. If Trump’s name is on the list, why didn’t Dems release it when Biden was in office? Yes I know that’s a question the right has been asking but I don’t know the answer to it.
Because I don’t care who’s on the list, Republican or Dem. They all deserve prison
Not sure if Biden/dems have given a reason yet. I believe, typically, the official reason they keep this files secret is they may still intend to take legal action in the future.
Unofficially, Biden’s AG Merrick Garland really did not go hard against Trump. They let him get away with an attempted coup, not sure if that was at Biden’s request or if Garland persuaded him not to.
Farfetched theory on my part but Biden really tried not to stir the waters, I feel, to avoid a civil war.
Can’t we just celebrate a win for once without saying they’re not doing enough? This is a good thing any way you look at it.
I think it’s hard to take the DNC seriously when they still let Chuck Shumer drone people to sleep, I mean, speak for the party.
They’ve snubbed their own party’s progressive caucus for brain dead geriatrics.
Their leadership has blatantly benefited from insider trading and social welfare while failing to achieve those policies for their constituents.
Every day the DNC looks more and more like a broken clock that’s only only right when it’s 2 minutes to midnight.
They really, really, don’t deserve applause at this point. They deserve to be replaced.
Im so tired of this site competing for who is the furthest left leaning. We all want a better future. But we can’t get that if we dont put this fascism shit down before it gets terminal.
The guys who are still trying to work with republicans while Alligator Auschwitz exists are not fighting fascism, their policies allowed the fascists to take control and now they are trying to work with the fascists.
