Not really a meme meme, but i felt like i had to :s

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    I wonder how long this will last. The NSFW industry is insanely huge. If the current payment processors cut it off, that leaves a giant gap in the market just waiting to get filled (😏).

    If they hold firm on this, it might just be a rare opportunity for a new (and hopefully better) payment processor to enter the market.

    Or maybe just wider crypto adoption, idk.

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        Collective Shout happened, an australian organisation decided to wage global war on anything NSFW in games (so far), their key talking points are allegedly being feminist and anti-exploitation of women.

        i wonder if they asked the women they’re saying they’re protecting if they want that “protection”, or if they’re imagining that women just don’t make NSFW art

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        My God… All the “pro life” movements make so much more sense now! They actually don’t care about the women, they only want the children around. And worse off the children, the better for them!

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    This is why some of us love crypto currencies so much despite the hate it gets from so many who claim there is no intrinsic value, it’s a scam, etc.

    Stay away from shit coins, no doubt, but the intrinsic value is that you can side step all of the bullshit and spend your money as you choose. No need to get permission first. It’s looking to be a much better path forward, and payment processors inserting their own rules will only drive more acceptance of alternative payment methods.

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      I mean this is a false dichotomy. You can have a payment system that isn’t a shit show like crypto or a duopoly like Visa and Mastercard.

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        ??? Nothing about what I said was a dichotomy of any kind. Where did I exclude the possibility to create something else?

        All I did was use this situation to illustrate why crypto has value today.

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    what even is the point of this cyberpunk dystopia if there won’t even be good porn to wank to?

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      Bitcoin is really bad for using as currency, due to the fact that there is a permanent, public ledger of all transactions. Why would you want anyone you pay to be able to see and trace every transaction you’ve ever made? Pay rent in bitcoin, now your landlord can calculate your spending and who you do transactions with. And yes, there are services that aggregate and obfuscate transactions in order to make them less traceable, but now you’ve just reinvented the same centralized payment processor system that the whole thing is supposed to be replacing… so… what’s the point?

      Cash is good for using as currency.

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        so… what’s the point?

        The point isn’t anonymity, but independence and autonomy. It’s hard to shut down and hard to tax. The banks/governments can’t freeze your bitcoins, nor can they simply print more or regulate the value otherwise.

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          The banks/governments can’t freeze your bitcoins, nor can they simply print more or regulate the value otherwise.

          You’re just listing reasons why bitcoin sucks lol. Oh no!!! Flight risk criminals and terrorists had their accounts frozen!!! Oh no, ReGuLaTiOn BaD!!! Grow up.

          Finite currencies (like gold/silver/bitcoin) are deflationary currencies and are genuinely absolutely terrible for an economy. That’s why we don’t use gold anymore.

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            “Flight risk criminals and terrorists had their accounts frozen!!!”

            Yes, those criminals, for example, LGBT people who conservatives believe are pornographic simply for existing. God forbid LGBT artists want to have a way of earning a living. Crypto is relied on by a lot of marginalized groups. It’s used by artists who make perfectly legal art, but whose content conservatives object to. Crypto is used by many queer content creators as they face being cut off from payment processing systems, as again, conservatives consider queer people pornographic simply for existing. Crypto is used by sex workers, often people with few other employment options. Oh, and crypto is used by trans people to get access to healthcare that is quickly being criminalized.

            How insane do you have to be, in 2025 Trump’s America, to fall back on the idea that anything criminal is bad. Republicans are trying to criminalize the existence of entire swathes of the population. And those people face being cut off from the banking system entirely, if folks like you, who blindly consider legality=morality, have their way.

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                How are those related? It is possible for some conservatives to want to purge LGBT voices from the internet at the same time other conservatives want to advance crypto. These are not mutually exclusive goals.

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        You can make intermediate wallets to obfuscate transfers, like throwaways, so the wallet that pays your rent is different from the one ordering a dragon dildo and it’s hard to say if it’s the same person, but it’s a hassle and you’ll get extra transaction fees.

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    So, this means that pretty much any paid adult content can’t accept visa, right? Or are they just stomping in the small creators for not being profitable enough?

    Looking at you, OnlyFans…

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      For now, they are targeting more niche “taboo” kinks like incest and bdsm. But as we’ve seen time and time again with bigoted, puritanical christofascists, they will not stop there. Next, they come for the queer content. My guess is furry stuff is next under the bad faith argument of “bestiality”, then more standard queer content, including tame non-erotic content. Finally, all erotic content.

      Remember, everything sexual is sinful and evil unless its a straight white cis Christian married couple having joyless missionary sex for the purposes of procreation only.

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        They’re already attacking furry content featuring “animal-esque genitalia”, as there were people who thought that was “zoophilic”. However, I still remember how much anime fans needed to fight, so that kemonomimi (catgirls, etc.) wouldn’t been labeled as “zoophilic”, which might be the source for the furry/anime divide in the west.

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    I was worried that this could make bitcoin seem useful but other people in here are explaining why bitcoin would still be an awful solution for this.

    So… are we going back to cash and checks? Will people need to mail envelopes of cash to furry vore artists?

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      Bitcoin wouldn’t be an awful solution to this, but there’s certainly a few better ones, such as

      • Visa and MC just being the opinionless payment providers they ought to be.
      • Regulation enforcing all payment providers to be similarly opinionless.
      • Ethereum, or another crypto more suited to many, fast payments
      • A layer-2 network over Bitcoin that can enable many fast payments, such as the lightning network.
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    I don’t get it. Will they also ban sex shops, adult cinemas and every other offline adult entertainment thing that exist?

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          Man. I remember being a kid and dreaming about a world where puritans got laughed out of existence. Then we had the “woke” era which shocked me sideways. I never dreamed that progressive thinking people would get hung up on regressive shit like policing language, it reminded me of being in church as a kid and hearing about those dreaded, awful, naughty words. But hey, at least their goals were well meaning and driven by empathy and concern for how other people have it in this world.

          Who did they piss off though? The fucking puritans. The very people who policed language all of my childhood. It turns out that nothing ever meant anything to them, they just wanted to control people. “Don’t tell me I can’t call a little person a midget! Bad words is fuck and shit! Not me making fun of people!!!” One group said, “if it’s fun it’s bad.” The other group said, “if anyone is hurt by it, it’s bad.”

          Now the puritans have gone full fascist because they felt like they were losing some culture war, so they want it all, and they scream loud enough to be heard.

          It’s like this tug of war that is just going to end with regular people who don’t raise hell when they get upset being shoved into the dirt by a loud crybaby minority of people.

          Before I had any grasp of history, I just assumed that people were always heading toward being more liberal in how they deal with the world.

          Nope, this is what we do. We have cycles of enlightenment and cycles of assholes responding to said enlightenment. Somebody always has to be morally superior, fighting some ugly enemy. If we ran out of reasons to fight tomorrow, we’d just argue over some other dumb shit.

          I’m drunk, so please don’t take me too seriously. I’ll probably wake up tomorrow and argue with myself about deleting this comment haha.

          Whatever happens, I really hope we have freedom at the end of the day. I don’t care what it costs. Maybe we aren’t meant to have it. Maybe our nature is just too ugly.

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    So, why doesn’t some other payment processor step in to fill in the demand gap that the others are willfully abdicating?

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        oh, actually, there is a third option - very popular and widespread in Poland - BLIK - let’s hope that a) they won’t bend to the same bullshit b) they take the chance to go global.

        BLIK is really nifty, you go to your banking app, generate a code, give the code to the website/seller, confirm in the app, and payment made.

        and all you’ll have to say (obviously steortyping here) is that if BLIK does the same as Visa & Mastercard, the Witcher & Cyberpunk will have to be banned due to adult content, instant win and security of NSFW media forever