ridding society of parasites

That seems somehow familiar. Hmm. Where I have I heard that political rhetoric before? Whatever, it’s only '26. I’m sure by '33 it will all come back.

I agree that we use the death penalty too often, and often for the wrong reasons, but I would never want that option to be permanently off the table.

There are some people so heinous, that they need to be removed for the good of society. Leaving them alive only emboldens those who think like them. Child Rapist/Murders, Serial Killers, Torture Killers, Actual Treason, and a few others EARN their death penalties, and as a society, we need to eliminate them, and end any influence on our society and culture.

We should only use it a handful of times in a decade, and only in cases where there is no dispute at all. The inmate should have the benefit of a last comprehensive review of their case by a panel of judges, and any chances to use improved technology, DNA, etc. If the death sentence holds up, then it should be a national event, followed on the news, and everybody in the nation should know what we are doing, and why. We should all be a part of it, as a nation.

I remember when those two numbskulls in Connecticut home invaded that family, tied them up, raped the mother and daughters all night, then set the house on fire. The father escaped, called the authorities from the neighbor’s house, and the cops and fire Dept rolled up, just as these dipshits ran out of the burning house. They were caught LITERALLY red-handed, and then immediately confessed by blaming the other guy.

I had a lot of conversations online about that crime, and one thing that was common among Connecticut residents was that they regretted getting rid of the death penalty because even though they didn’t like it, they ALL thought these guys deserved it.

We shouldn’t surrender our ultimate option, just because it makes us uncomfortable. It SHOULD make us uncomfortable, but we have a responsibility as a society to not limit our own defenses. Those who attack our society will not respect our "humanity,"they will exploit it.

While I believe that child murderers, especially those who rape and torture children, have absolutely EARNED their death penalties, your suggestion that we torture them the same way is ridiculous. Who do we get to perform this punishment? Another torture-murderer we haven’t executed yet? Or is this a Department of Corrections position with specialized training?

I don’t buy the argument that executing a heinous murderer lowers the government to their level, but torturing them first DEFINITELY does.

That’s an immature position to take. Think harder.

“Humanity is a lost cause” - proceeds to display a phenomenal lack of humanity by demanding retribution.

Good game. Way to make a point.

Retribution achieves nothing except continuing the circle of violence. The humane thing to do is recognizing the humanity even in supposed monsters. Let’s suppose that doesn’t matter and we would agree that certain crimes need to be punished with the most intense cruelty we can come up with: What if someone is wrongfully convicted? that happens all the time. You can’t undo killing someone.

Torture and death penalty are barbaric and have no place in democracy.

Yes.

I would.

I’d prefer him to be held, alive, to watch while the monstrosity he’s wrought is dismantled piece by piece. Being made to experience having everything you’ve ever done become shame and humiliation, from a small concrete box with basic rations and a stainless steel pot to shit in. To have enough time to potentially come to the realisation of just how much of an absolute and utter stain on humanity his existence has been.

Hanging leaves no space for true repentance. Or the long term suffering of incarceration until death by natural causes, or preferably, both. Shrug

Thankfully the Netherlands are civilised.

Do you have issues understanding the word nothing?

you have a classmate that was in the russian invasion and killed by Ukraine?

He’s a civilian doctor who went to work in the “new territories” (occupied ones) . Not the best decisions of his, but still he wasn’t a combatant. Propaganda loves to paint people in colors, I don’t expect you to understand.

Assuming that they where fighting russia at the time, or where they just collateral?

The colleague was a girl I started to work with just after I left Russia. She went to Lvov (Lviv) to visit parents but then decided to Kiev. Again, not the best decision of her, but this one I expect you to understand.

I’m not trying to change things here. I know this is a shithole, but then I just have an urge to show that this kind of jokes (haha collateral damage) feel different when you are Russian even 4 years into the conflict, worse with Ukrainians.

It’s not your fault. Your fault is ignorance that is cured with experiencing a war at close.

At this point, I just want to say two things

1. “legitimate target” is a dog whistle for commiting a war crime. You are describing one.

2. Please wake up. You’re filled with propaganda just as my folks who initially supported the war. Assuming you are not from Ukraine, I want to just recommend you stop watching war related content in social media. This thing poisons how you think and feel the world.

Not that anyone was actually cleaning otherwise of course.

Do you really need a reminder of that though?

I am against virtually everything Hitler stood for. There is almost nothing that I and that terrible person would agree on. Yet I have read Mein Kampf.

Likewise, I agree with very little in The Communist Manifesto, but I have read that as well.

I encourage people to read these works, not because they are good, but because understanding bad ideas is one of the best ways to recognize and oppose them.

You think Twitter is a neo-Nazi website because the billionaire who bought it performed a gesture that many people, myself included, interpreted as a Nazi salute two years ago.

Based on what I know about the man, he may be racist. He may even be a closeted Nazi. I do not know. It certainly would not surprise me.

What I do not do is tell people what books they should not read, what websites they should not visit, or what ideas they should not be exposed to simply because I dislike the politics involved.

You are not demonstrating moral virtue by expressing your dislike of Twitter or its owner. You are demonstrating intellectual narrow-mindedness. If your beliefs are sound, they should be able to withstand exposure to opposing viewpoints.

Just in case, I am talking about Elon Musk.

Moreover, by condemning the posting of Twitter, you are essentially enforcing the same kind of rhetoric that pushes people into book burnings.

Twitter should not be ignored. It should be embraced and then attacked for exactly the reasons why it isn’t good to start with.

Sure you did.

Remind me again how many random civilians have been killed in Ukraine by Russian missiles? How many Palestinian children have been shot in the face by the IDF? How many people in the US are either rounded up and disappeared or just gunned down by the cops daily? Your moral high ground and promises to “hold those responsible accountable” in some future trial that will lead to a sense of “justice” doesn’t mean shit to the people who are dead at the hands of aggressors who give no fucks about morality in the here and now. Every one of us that lets this go on daily because we follow the “rules” our enemy disregards is as steeped in the blood of their victims as they are. They don’t require justification for their actions, they just take advantage of our hesitation and debates over whether we should meet them with equal force.

My anger, my ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight, they’ve set me on a path from which there is no escape. I yearned to be a savior against injustice without contemplating the cost and by the time I looked down there was no longer any ground beneath my feet. What is my sacrifice?

I’m a a terrible example of what humanity could be. I live what I have to in the reality of what “humanity” is right now while recognizing what we could be. We’re an exceptional byproduct of the pressure our environment pushed us to.

Neo-Nazis and Confederate “Lost Cause” advocates nowadays.

Bruh, the high ground isn’t enough

So wait he’s training with the enemy, holding a weapon, and not wearing a proper uniform?

That would classify him as a spy and subject him to prompt execution if captured wouldn’t it?

The important part was how the rest of the world didn’t care

I’ve seen a few video where they drop a grenade on someone that’s clearly been knocked unconscious, as well as some where the person has given up. I’ve seen one where they let the person walk to the front line and give himself up as well.

I think most drone squads operate close or behind enemy lines and from a fair distance from the actual drone. You can’t really take prisoners in those kinds of situation in most cases.