The nearest abortion clinic – in Chicago – was too far away and too expensive for her mother to provide her with the procedure
This is what Republicans want for all of us.
If Republicans win the next election, they will institute a national abortion ban without exceptions for rape or incest.
If you want to stop this, the only way to do so is to vote for Biden. I really hope people understand this.
What it’s going to take is to vote in Biden, then whoever the Democrats run in 2028, 2032, 2036. Until enough of the Republican justices die in office that actual jurists can replace them.
Why can’t Biden do something to safeguard abortion in his current term?
If he can’t do something on his current term, why will he be able to do something on his next one?
It would take an act of congress, and the D’s don’t have the votes. Shitty but true.
Don’t bother, he’s from Lemmygrad and just wants to blame the Democrats for everything
Dude, I’m not even from the US. My question is, in my opinion, an obvious one, at least to an outsider to the US political system. Why do you have to vote him again, when he’s in power now?
Because presidents serve for a limited number of years.
Of which he had 4 in total to do something about abortions, so I fail to see how that’s an adequate answer
Well that’s different than what you asked before but ok. The president doesn’t create new laws. That’s the job of the legislature. Currently the republicans hold more seats in the house and in the senate there’s 48 Dem, 49 Rep, and 3 Ind. So not likely to produce anything about abortion other than trying to ban it. It doesn’t look like anyone else is going to be a real contender to run in Biden’s place and anyone from the republican side would clearly be worse and would greenlight any anti-abortion bills that legislature would try to pass. So the obvious and adequate answer is that when Biden’s term is up we are going to have to vote for him again because there are no better options and the legislature is not in a state that will work to protect pro-choice rights but is in a state where it could try to limit those rights. Also, Biden was sworn in on Jan 20th 2021 so he hasn’t had 4 years yet.
It’s a classic case of maintaining the status quo. He may not be able to codify abortion protection but he can at least stop the R’s from doing it.
His presidential subscription needs to be re-upped every Summer Olympics
Don’t bother, he’s from lemmy.world and just wants to blame the leftists for everything.
Acktually… I think it’s lemm.ee
Whatever you say, fash
I probably agree with your stance on abortion over all. I also generally dislike ML Communists/Leninists for their cultish indoctrination and authoritarian tendencies. But you’ve been way off base with this reply and the previous one in this chain. And are only serving to make yourself look bad. Something that can and has happened to all of us sometimes. Step back, take a look around, and chill.
Biden doesn’t have the authority to safeguard abortion. He had the authority to veto Congress. Biden would veto a nationwide abortion ban. Trump or any other Republican would not.
Additionally, presidents appoint supreme Court justices in the event of a vacancy, or if Congress ever gets on board for expanding the court… do we’d need a Democrat in office if we’re ever going to reverse Dobbs.
Can’t he do it temporarily via executive order?
No. It isn’t in the scope of executive powers.
If there was a national law protecting the right to abortion, he could use executive orders to enforce that. But that isn’t the world we live in anymore.
That’s not the only way of stopping them.
This is the way.
It’s not even a way to stop them.
Biden has literally been president during this whole Roe v Wade overturning.
It’s so exhausting to see libs walk this line so close to being actual progressives, but not, all for their precious capitalism.
You’re never going to beat the system by playing within the rules it’s set you, the house always wins.Okay. Outline a reasonable action Biden could have taken to prevent the ruling.
He could have pushed to have it codified.
He could have also pushed student loan forgiveness for all borrowers instead of the bullshit means testing that got it shut down.
Without 60 votes in the Senate, shit, without 50, it codification of abortion rights wasn’t happening. And he did push loan forgiveness, the Supreme Court shut that down.
It got shut down because of the means testing he included. If he hadn’t excluded some borrowers it would have gone through.
Nope, it got shut down because the court ruled that it amounted to the executive appropriating money. Means testing is constitutional.
Is this what they want? Ruined lives? Fucking idiots.
Yes, actually. Conservatism flourishes most when people are suffering, unhealthy and impoverished.
It is a plague in desperate need of a cure.
Yes. The cruelty is the point.
The poor are supposed to be punished via all sorts or laws that keep them poor, for the “crime” of being poor.
Kinda reminds me how in my country - Portugal - during the Fascist Dictatorship abortion was illegal but the daughters of the wealthy (and you could only be wealthy if part of the regime, so these were the very same people who made the laws) could just go next door to Spain to get an abortion whilst the rest (almost all of them, as there was crushing poverty in the country back then) couldn’t afford to.
Whilst the outright Evil of the people passing this kind of law is bad, it’s the hypocrisy that really makes it trully disgusting.
god has a plan or whatever
In theory, they want the girl to give up the baby for adoption.
In practice, they instead often end up being shamed to keep it, and so on, and so on…
It’s literally what they want. You think that girl’s going to stand up for herself at work when she’s got a kid at home?
well shit. you nailed it, i was that kid at home and my mother beat the shit out of me to vent her frustrations from the apathy work gave her. what’s worse than being abused. seeing those around you foster that abuse because, lol single mother = prey.
Of course, now that the baby is out the pro-lifers say that they can both go die in a ditch
The unborn are a convenient group to advocate for
Literally have to do nothing other than talk
Sounds like a Republican’s dream
Wouldn’t they like to marry the girl to her rapist, because sex outside of marriage is a sin or something?
And it gives them an excuse to marry kids legally
If Republicans didn’t have children with an abused woman, would they have any at all?
And the nurse’s comment on finding a 13 yr old pregnant? “What have you been doing?” For fucks sake, I hate the world.
Ah yes let’s slut shame the 13 year olds instead of doing our due diligence as mandated reporters. Smh.
and it’s her rapist’s child. a stranger nonetheless. These folks just lack humanity.
The baby’s father is so proud he gave expensive cigars to all his fellow GOP congressmen.
An abortion is not something you should need to be able to afford. It’s not a luxury, it’s a (often necessary) medical procedure. So fucked up, all of this. I hope the family can achieve some semblance of happiness some day
Wow that is some serious bullshit right there. For the rest of this girls life she is going to have to share custody with the man that raped her.
They don’t know who it was. It was a complete stranger who raped her when she was playing in her yard. The police haven’t even investigated. He’d have to come forward first.
Sounds like a middle eastern thing. Wonder what the link is.
It’s not a middle eastern thing, It stems from people in power who don’t see women as having any value, except as house slaves/property. Those people try to justify their ideas by pointing to old texts, where other similar minded people have snuck in the notions of women as property or of less value than men.
Religious fanaticism.
That’s what it has become, but I don’t think any of the old religions was founded on the oppression of women, but people in power have conveniently added that sort of thing, when religion became a tool of power
So you see a story about sexual violence in Mississippi and your first thought is “I bet a Muslim did this.”
Makes total sense; the good ol’ Christian boys in Missisip are beyond suspicion.
In Saudi Arabia she would been allowed an abortion. Saudi Arabia is literally more progressive in this area than Mississippi.
Look at that. Using Islamophobia as an excuse to be racist against several large people groups/ cultures. Such enlightenment.
I am embarrassed to be American
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Ironically/sadly, many of these fundies are women.
Makes me sick, fuck that hellhole of a country.
I will fight my ass off to place my children into a conservatorship or even frame them for a crime if they ever consider moving to a place like Mississippi
Fucking missleading as shit
How so?
Trying to get abortion at what state if the pregnancy?
Literally isn’t relevant
Bro, you’re talking about a 13 year old being forced to give birth. Why tf would you ask “What trimester is she in?!” Versus “Holy shit how have we failed her this badly?!”
I understand the “holy shit how have we failed her this badly”. My question is, at that point are you saying its okay to kill a baby other than have a 13 have a child? What did the baby do to get killed?
Well thankfully, no babies are killed during abortion procedures, so you can stop worrying about that.
Oh wow… Really?
Yes…? Words have meaning, and often times (especially when we’re talking about the law) seemingly minor differences in word choice can make all the difference in the world. That’s why any legal document you see has a section at the top defining terms so there can be no question what is meant.
Abortion doesn’t directly concern “babies.” It usually just involves a blastocyst or maybe a zygote or embryo. Literal clumps of cells that the human body often eliminates on it’s own, spontaneously and for no clear reason.
At the very most, it involves a fetus, which is still not a baby.
Yea, I guess that is the main argument right? When is the baby “alive”. Some say as soon as conception happens, some say as soon as he/she can breath. I think most would agree that is somewhere in between.
Besides, where is the rapist? If she was rapped that mean the rapist is in jail right? Cut his balls, castrate him.
