• Foni@lemmy.zip
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    9 hours ago

    As a European, the fact that you don’t have serious riots (at the level of supermarkets being robbed and federal buildings burned to the ground) is still surprising.

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      7 hours ago

      Not a sociologist.

      Riots need a flash point. The murder of George Floyd is a good example.

      So far, there’s been a steady grinding down, but no single event brings people together.

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      I’m not an American but I can kinda understand why. Gotta tow that line. A good chunk of Americans are on the verge of homelessness and all their healthcare is tied directly to their employment. So rioting, looting grocery stores, etc runs a risk of not only being arrested or killed but also losing their jobs and thus losing their healthcare. The US Government has done a brilliant job over the decades of establishing a system preventing people from revolting.

      Now one can argue that other countries would revolt and they’d also lose said things mentioned above because how can you get healthcare if you’re actively fighting the system that provides it? But Americans don’t know that. They’ve been conditioned to, again, tow the line.

      Add to the fact there’s zero leadership for said revolt. Literally none. This isn’t like Black Lives Matter where there was an organization rallying everyone. I mean the proof is in the pudding just look at the No Kings protests. when do those happen? on the weekend, on a Saturday, when the vast majority are off work.

      Now if those protests happened at 11am on a Tuesday I’d be impressed, but as it stands right now? that ain’t happening any time soon. They need leadership, they have none.

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        I don’t know, I’m not that familiar with the American system or society, but if they think behaving like Samuel L. Jackson in the Django Unchained movie will save them from losing all that, they’re delusional.

        Maybe never having had a real dictatorship in their country has made them think they can still get rid of these people by the book, but that’s not going to happen. Bannon said it the other day: they know that if they lose power they’ll end up in jail. They won’t get out of there except by force.

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          Maybe never having had a real dictatorship in their country has made them think they can still get rid of these people by the book

          Correct. The goons didn’t rise to power by following the books.

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          you hit the nail on the head. Americans believe the book still works. you can go in various threads be it on lemmy, piefed, reddit, etc and still the rhetoric “remember people, vote them out in the midterms!” is still being posted. Meanwhile a Democratic Rep from Arizona who DID win is STILL waiting to be sworn in. So the Republican Party/Current Dictatorship is clearly showing the American people that voting doesn’t matter. that they can simply block people who did win via votes from doing their jobs. Americans still don’t understand that. They still firmly believe that they’ll win the midterms by a landslide but…what then? the republican party can simply and president can simply say “nah, we’re good” and just stay in power. whose to stop them? and the current administration is hedging on that bet.

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          Bannon is full of shit. No one in the US political sphere has ever been imprisoned for illegal behavior. Especially not war crime. NEVER for corruption.

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        FYI, the phrase is “Toe the line.” As in: “Git your toes on that line in the dirt/sand, (insert perjorative here)” Just another reminder of our slaver past

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      Because the US government is militarized and has a history of attacking and killing even peaceful protesters.

      But these old men they love to vote for are poor scholars of history when they actively are putting millions into positions where they have nothing to lose, after decades of letting the corrupt gun industry arm them with significant fire power. But given there is no leadership for these people this will play out in pockets of random violence and even more authoritarianism by a Fascist government.

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      Despite headlines, it hasn’t gotten that desperate yet. If nothing changes this month December will likely go down in history books. For now people are still trying to avoid squaring off against the brute squads (ICE), of give trump an excuse to use the regular army against us before they are too hungry to be loyal. When the food banks start running dry is when the violence will start.