What if you build a nested simulation and you escape into that?
What if that’s what we’ve already done?
This remind me of a cartoon series that I recently watched called Pantheon, where they upload a humans brain and consciousness into a computer.
Is it any good?
I’m always on the hunt for new stuff!
It’s pretty good. I liked it a lot. There is this theme of fighting with and between gods (uploaded humans) and has a pretty good ending that made me want to rewatch it.
It is unfortunately only legally available in Australia and New Zealand from what I know, so you probably have to look around for another way to see it if your not from there.
I’m not super upset by legal acquisition if it’s not available here.
Thanks! It’s on my list now. I’m actually excited that it’s foreign media but not anime. (Anime is fine, but sometimes you don’t want the sameness)
Isn’t that what they are doing with VR?
I think that’s pretty much the plot of ‘Devs’?
It’s wise to treat any talk about The Simulation™ like talk of God and the afterlife. An interesting concept, but absolutely unverifiable, and therefore unscientific and of no relevance to your day to day life. Unless you want to believe, but then it’s a religion.
well, the afterlife is the real world, and we’re in a sim and we get there by dying. kinda no difference at all.
“If something cannot be settled by experiment or observation, then it is not worthy of debate.”
see also falsifiability
yo why is your phone on 100% that’s weird.
COINCIDENCE!?
The free will and simulation arguments, while certainly fun to think about and possibly valuable to bear in mind, are completely pointless to a certain extent. Even if you confirmed that free will doesnt exist or that we are in a simulation of some fashion, the mere fact that it had to he discovered and was up for debate prior to that means that nothing about your life will change to the slightest.
Well, the simulation argument may not make a difference, but the free will one might. If nobody has the free will necessary for moral responsibility, then many of our punishment practices can’t be morally upheld. If nobody deserves punishment, we should only use it as a means of keeping social harmony, and that means we should do it a lot less and a lot differently.
Lmao I realized after I posted that that it was gonna open a bit of a philosophical can of worms, and that I would quickly be neck deep. This is a very good point, and I only meant my statement to a certain extent. For the average human’s daily life, finding out that free will doesnt exist (to whichever extent you’d like to take an idea like that) wouldnt suddenly change their daily experience, and they would be able to continue to operate under the assumption that they are making meaningful choices with varied outcomes just like usual. They had this impression before the revelation that free will is not real, so their life experiences would not necessarily change after the fact (obviously it COULD change, but wouldnt as a necessity). As for the more nuanced moral implications of such a discovery/revelation, I shouldnt presume to know how that would impact the world.
This is a lot of philosophy. Pointless in the day to day. But the arguments and ideas eventually lead somewhere.
I do think the discussions of free will are important because it’s a major area that people take for granted. When you ask “what does free will really mean?” you can’t just come back from that.
It makes no sense for it to be a simulation like a computer simulation. It’s a simulation like a dream is a simulation. Everything in the universe you observe is you. Waking up from the dream is realising this, and realising nothing exists, just being.
Does that mean that one of us isn’t real?
Like a dream, you are just me. The floor I walk is me. The air I breathe is me. Everyone I meet, everything I feel, is just me. Nothing is real except I.
I took about 10 hits of acid once and had a conversation with something that seemed to be “God” or a close approximation to it, and it told me something similar. It told me that everything is connected, that we’re all one, that we’re all of us different aspects of each other, or something like that. This was 20+ years ago and I was zonked out of my fucking head that night.
I followed you (Egg Theory) right up until that last line.
Slash dot? The tech website is the only real thing?I, me 😆
Damn, was really hoping there was some deeper stuff I was missing. So you’re a subscriber to Egg Theory then?
It’s called that from that little story about god talking to a recently deceased dude with the end result being that this universe is an egg?
Awesome. I guess I’m an egg theory subscriber.
So I’m still just having sex with myself? I should have known it was too good to be true.
We’re all only having sex with you
I think that if life is a simulation, it’s tech assisted dreaming, letting one dial in specifics for consistent experiences
Universe admin: ha, look, some idiot just fucked up his own account record, how could he even do that?
I’ll wipe him and run consistency tests.Don’t escape, exploit. Hacks, cheat codes.
Free Guy. I can dig it.
Star Ocean: Til the End of Time already disproved your idea
Go play it for 600 hours and come back once you’ve been educated 😤
Literally one of the best experiences I had on a fucken PS2. Let the dolphin go out the airlock!
How long until someone discovers an arbitrary code execution exploit in the simulation?
Bold move assuming we all want to exist.
If this is a simulation it’s buggier than a Bethesda new release.
