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Then why do they have the word “buy” on the PS store🤨
Because you buy it. It being a limited license of course, not a game.
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Next time: Acquire license
If I won’t own them, I’m not buying them. This is them shooting themselves in the feet.
yeah but they don’t own their feet
Digital feet only, you say?
Imagine how well digital games would sell if they showed up in your cart like: 1 x Revokable License for God of War $69 See Terms and Conditions* [Confirm Payment]
- Terms: we will do whatever the fuck we want. Conditions: whenever we want.
There’s a reason they say “Buy” instead of “Pay”.
It’s been going on for generations, but it’s no less dishonest for all that. Software sellers write complex EULAs for which the only valid answer is “Agree” because the store won’t take an open box back and the software won’t install unless we pretend to agree, so even us legitimate software enjoyers are pirates in our hearts. Meanwhile normies don’t even think about it that much. Fuck this whole system, but double fuck an online service that says “purchase” but will steal it back later. Fuck that.
1x temporary license to play. Duration of license unspecified.
Pretty sure in the past it was at least considered a lifetime license.
In the past it didn’t matter, because you had the whole file structure for the application when you purchased it. You either downloaded it in whole as an install file or archive, or you had it on the physical media that you purchased it on. Maybe there was a license you had to input or some other rudimentary DRM system, but you had that too. No remote access from the company, no forced additional downloads or internet connectivity, no phone home. So they could say whatever they wanted, but you actually had the product.
Now with media files that only play with proprietary tools that phone home, or applications that phone home, your computers are backdoored. And if you have a system that’s backdoored, it’s not really yours, it’s just something you can access for now. That’s what your Kindle is: a backdoored computer with an e-ink screen and proprietary software that can open proprietary files that other software isn’t supposed to be able to open. Which is why no one should buy one.
You should stop buying that shit then.
Also isn’t the kindle fine if you just download offline files? Its been a very long time since I used one though.
I do happen to agree that one should not buy a Kindle. There are alternatives, and good ones.
But also a Kindle, a locked down computer that is illegal to make work properly, shouldn’t exist.
The problem is that in so many of these specialized computers, every major device available is rights violating, or under powered. It is damn hard too “choose” your way out of an economy as an individual.
*Lifetime for the time the product/service is alive
If they end the thing, they can just pretend they did a rewrite and invalidate the current version/not develop it any further and maybe offer a migration discount (lol).
I’d prefer the model of “Buy version X for at least x years of feature updates and Y days of security updates”.
If I’ve already bought it I won’t even hesitate to pirate it.
Having backups of owned digital media is just good practice.
If buying isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing.
Good thing I buy games on gog so I own them and I could copy them to a DVD if I really wanted to.
People need to stop supporting these companies. Stop buying Nintendo. Stop buying Sony.
I heard sega is thinking about releasing a handheld that takes carts 🤞
Oh cool, still i don’t trust them since they implement Denuvo on some of their games.
Where’d you hear that? :o
Scrolling somewhere… sorry I don’t have more info
Plus Microslop
Its not enough they are ditching physical media, they’re being this brazen about it.
If I don’t own them, no reason to pay for them ever.
Even if they succeed with a weird judge to prove this… It’s not the point. We want to own stuff, so either make “owning” available or we stop buying/renting.
Also, there is the common online sentiment “If buying isn’t owning, then piracy is not stealing” and I can’t help but believe that this will permiate even deeper into the gaming culture.
Piracy has never been stealing, whether you were allowed to own the thing or not. Piracy is a copyright infringement.
Its crazy how everybody got used to rental prices as high as physical copy.
Most people don’t know they are rentals
I can prove in home that I don’t own any playstation past the 4.
Let’s see who loses.
“Sony pushes the idea that “reasonable consumers would not be misled” into believing they own the games in their digital library”.
Wasn’t this the same basic legal outcome Fox News received when they were sued and it was determined that ‘no reasonable viewer’ would think Tucker Carlson was anything but entertainment? That worked out well.
But people who are easily fooled by such things are exactly the ones who need extra protection. Many laws exist to protect the weaker members of society.
That’s why you should buy physical disks. In the worst case you can re-sell them to someone else.
Or buy games without DRM. Like on GOG.
Also wait until development of the game is really done. That way the game is better and cheaper and works on cheaper hardware.
GOG doesn’t work on consoles.
Jussayin not everyone wants to maintian a PC so they can game…
If you want to own your games why don’t you want to own the device you use to play them?
That is a bullshit arguement. “You dont own the hardware so you dont deserve to own the games” - I do own the hardware… I can’t update/upgrade it the same way I do my PC, but I still own it.
If you read my message carefully you would see that I didn’t say what you quoted.
No, you didn’t, it was implied though … And I didn’t quote you, it was paraphrasing your argument
Hey guys, you all seem to want to have ownership of your software. Come over here where we have ownership of hardware too!
This is bullshit! You are saying we don’t deserve ownership!
My gaming PC takes the same amount of maintenance as my PS5. Both are computers with parts that can break. Other than that, install updates when they pop up.
Also, Steam Deck / Machine (or any PC with SteamOS) essentially can handle like consoles and run GOG games.
Yep. I buy every game I can on GOG.
Nothing new. This is the same bullshit legal framework that underpins the entire software industry and extends back to the mid 90s. It’s just front-and-center in games now because the industry has transitioned from a growth industry to a mature one wherein producers need to extract more revenue per user and predictably enshittify their platforms to do so.
I’ve basically decided that I will not buy any game that I cannot play offline. If I do a buy game, I will also pirate it to ensure continued access. If I can’t pirate it, I won’t buy it.
Fuck em.
