So, this is not the alternative though, right? Our current situation and political landscape is exactly where decades of blue no matter who got us. It’s time to change strategies, because this isn’t working.
Or is it where decades of mostly ignoring anything but presidential elections has gotten us? Where mot participating in most of the process has gotten us and then we want there to be just the choice we want, waiting for us at the end?
Again, you seem to be willingly missing the point. Up until the election, you had an entire year to fight tooth and nail for better. At the election, you only have two choices and no amount of “they both suck I refuse to do anything but sit here and tell everyone else they fucked up by letting it get to this point” will change that. You had two choices only and refused to make a single one, letting the worst happen.
Are you aware of the world around you enough to know how it got here? They voted red every single time and pulled things slightly more to the right every time they could. They didn’t like their candidates, but they understood they won’t get where they want to immediately. You have to incrementally get there because people are awful and scared of change so they kept working at it election by election. Meanwhile, people like you said “well this is not the perfect choice so I’m going to sit around and pout about it” and do nothing to even slow their progress.
No I understand your point. I just strongly disagree with it, mainly because reality just doesn’t line up with what you’re saying. What signs do you have that your current strategy is working? Like, actually. What signs are you getting from reality make you think “well geeze, we’ve got this down pat.”
I spent a solid year being called a trump supporter for saying that democrats had no business supporting genocide. I’m treating the genocide worshipers that comprise the entirety of the centrist wing of the party with the same consideration I got from them.
If they don’t like it, that’s the intent. They demonstrated that they have only one policy.
Just curious what makes you think, other than pure idiocy and ignorant rage, that I would support genocide? I voted every chance I could for a real progressive, I protested, I went around and tried to convine others to do the same. I printed and passed out flyers, but in the end, the only choice was Harris or Trump. You can go fuck yourself if you did anything less than that and think you have the right to complain and say others support genocide because you’re too much of a lazy idiot to understand a goddamned thing you think you do
Get the fuck over yourself. It’s not “because they disagreed with your opinion” it’s because there was a choice to make between openly bombing children and giving ICE more funding than the military or keeping the status quo, which is an embarassing choice for sure and it’s goddamn disgusting those were the only options, but keeping the status quo would have been easier to come back from than coming back from whatever the fuck is happening now. Grow the fuck up and learn to make adult decisions
Grow up and do the best thing that the situation allows. To see what the alternative is… [gestures vaguely at the world]
So, this is not the alternative though, right? Our current situation and political landscape is exactly where decades of blue no matter who got us. It’s time to change strategies, because this isn’t working.
Or is it where decades of mostly ignoring anything but presidential elections has gotten us? Where mot participating in most of the process has gotten us and then we want there to be just the choice we want, waiting for us at the end?
Again, you seem to be willingly missing the point. Up until the election, you had an entire year to fight tooth and nail for better. At the election, you only have two choices and no amount of “they both suck I refuse to do anything but sit here and tell everyone else they fucked up by letting it get to this point” will change that. You had two choices only and refused to make a single one, letting the worst happen.
Are you aware of the world around you enough to know how it got here? They voted red every single time and pulled things slightly more to the right every time they could. They didn’t like their candidates, but they understood they won’t get where they want to immediately. You have to incrementally get there because people are awful and scared of change so they kept working at it election by election. Meanwhile, people like you said “well this is not the perfect choice so I’m going to sit around and pout about it” and do nothing to even slow their progress.
No I understand your point. I just strongly disagree with it, mainly because reality just doesn’t line up with what you’re saying. What signs do you have that your current strategy is working? Like, actually. What signs are you getting from reality make you think “well geeze, we’ve got this down pat.”
Okay, so then tell me how not voting worked out for you? Fix anything?
Who says I don’t vote?
You didn’t answer their question
You got the only thing you wanted either way.
You are very quick to put words and thoughts and deeds in people’s mouths and minds and hands.
They’re right and you know it
I spent a solid year being called a trump supporter for saying that democrats had no business supporting genocide. I’m treating the genocide worshipers that comprise the entirety of the centrist wing of the party with the same consideration I got from them.
If they don’t like it, that’s the intent. They demonstrated that they have only one policy.
Just curious what makes you think, other than pure idiocy and ignorant rage, that I would support genocide? I voted every chance I could for a real progressive, I protested, I went around and tried to convine others to do the same. I printed and passed out flyers, but in the end, the only choice was Harris or Trump. You can go fuck yourself if you did anything less than that and think you have the right to complain and say others support genocide because you’re too much of a lazy idiot to understand a goddamned thing you think you do
You won the instant we were cheated out of a primary and both candidates were pro-genocide like you.
You seem to be making a hell of a lot of assumptions and straw men based on… Nothing. Please let the adults talk
You map adulthood 1:1 with genocide support and nothing else.
I would call you a fucking idiot, but that would be an insult to idiots
Abuse: because centrists can’t defend their only policy.
Abuse because I’m not a centrist and you’re ignoring everything but “but you must love genocide because you voted against trump”
“Grow up” fuck off with that. Telling other adults they aren’t adult because they don’t agree with your opinion? Fuck right the fuck off.
Get the fuck over yourself. It’s not “because they disagreed with your opinion” it’s because there was a choice to make between openly bombing children and giving ICE more funding than the military or keeping the status quo, which is an embarassing choice for sure and it’s goddamn disgusting those were the only options, but keeping the status quo would have been easier to come back from than coming back from whatever the fuck is happening now. Grow the fuck up and learn to make adult decisions
We tried to tell you that you would lose if you didn’t change. You screamed abuse.
“Grow up and use your vote to do what’s best for me”
Fixed it for you, clown