• Folstar@lemmus.org
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    4 hours ago

    Gang, this isn’t complicated. You fight the Democratic establishment 364 days a year. On election day you pick the lesser evil, which hopefully all that fighting you did made much less evil. We have an archaic election system, and until that changes (work to change it), that’s the best path forward.

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      2 hours ago

      In other words, voting isn’t enough: it’s merely the first step. After “your guys” are in power, you should bully them into keeping their promises and doing more

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      2 hours ago

      Work to change it, how?

      By illegally taking away capital from the people illegally fighting back against that change?

      You’re not in a democracy, stop solving your problems democratically

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          It’s a gradient. Did you get to decide who you’re allowed to vote for? Do they represent your actual interests? Do you have a say over what happens in your city or your workplace?

          Stuff like that

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          (1)In a democracy the people elect a representative of their ideology to govern them in fair elections

          (2)Both parties in the US in the 21st century start wars on foreign countries, lie about policies, submit to corrupt lobbying

          (3)Both parties in the US are not representative of the people of the US

          (4)The US is not a democracy

          Which of these is wrong?

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      3 hours ago

      Get called a trumper 364 days a year by people who love how much like trump the democratic establishment is constantly trying to become.

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    Good idea, commenters. Lets keep fighting each other about the perfect candidate for an election that already happened. Surely this will change the situation were in

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    The people mad at this post, unironically and without any self awareness, also get mad about “both sides ism” and complain that the left isn’t a unified front.

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    It’s so obvious the person who made this is on the left side of this picture.

    Only a lib could give the girl on the right both an anarchy patch and a bernie 2020 hat.

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    6 hours ago

    More dem slop, they still don’t understand why they can’t win elections. I’d point it out for them, but they’d just scream ‘blue no matter who’ instead of listening.

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    Fascists are not scared of being voted out lmao.

    With patience, you when. If your stance is unchanging, and you just chip away, taking every little bit of power as you can, constantly angling for a best strategic position, you will win.

    Fascist will always have a chance, they’re not scared of being out voted. They’re scared of the working class digging their asses out of their heads and realizing what’s up.

    That being said, absolutely still vote.

  • subversive_dev@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    It benefits the security state for a Dem to take the helm and lull the masses back to sleep with sweet words while continuing 99% of Trump’s policies

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    I’mma vote for the lesser of two evils. What I won’t do is fist bump a republican liteᵗᵐ like they didn’t torpedo every fucking progressive they could. I remember south carolina, biden was dead in the water and suddenly “centrists consolidated” and he was a fucking front runner.

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    If you keep doing something over and over, for decades, and still everything gets worse, then that something isn’t working. Feels like something that doesn’t need saying, but apparently it does.

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    Unless the candidate is a progressive, then the establishment Dems won’t endorse them (unless the progressive wins, then suddenly they totally supported the progressive all along)

    (no, I’m not saying don’t vote, just frustrated by the fucking hypocrisy)

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        vote in the primaries.

        When the party runs primaries at all, they interfere with them every chance they get. Saying “jUsT vOtE iN tHe PrImArIeS” without acknowledging this paints the results of the party’s corruption as the will of the people.

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        Ya that’s a problem I have in my neck of the words. Everyone complains about who is on the General Election ticket and they just shrug their shoulders about voting in the Primary.

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          “You mean I have to vote, and then vote again? Ugh, I wasnt even planning to show up to the actual vote. Meh…it’ll all work out fine.”

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        14 hours ago

        Exactly. This times a million. We don’t vote in primaries and then get all surprised that the Democratic candidates resemble the folks who voted in the primaries.

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          Imo if you don’t vote in the primaries, you’ve forfeited your right to bitch about the candidates on the general ticket

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        14 hours ago

        I figured that bit was obvious, I was speaking more towards the Dem leadership’s hypocrisy. Again, absolutely not saying “don’t vote both sides reeeeee”

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      13 hours ago

      Yeah didn’t the Democratic Party take credit for some shit Mamdani got done? Seemed pretty shitty since they tried to stop him from getting elected.

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      14 hours ago

      Make sure you’re pressuring the establishment Democrats in your jurisdiction and the people making campaign contributions.