• mangobanana@discuss.online
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    9 hours ago

    How does Thiel get a pass for being gay WHILE promoting NAZI bullshit? I don’t get why the christian nationalist give him a pass but any other LGBT person gets heavily persecuted

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      4 hours ago

      The hypocrisy of Nazis is beyond me at this point.

      The leader of the German far right party is a lesbian woman living in Switzerland and is married to a woman who is of Sri Lankan ancestry (adopted as a child).

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      I’m reminded of one of Roy Cohn’s monologues in Angels in America.

      Your problem is that you are hung up on words, on labels: “gay”, “homosexual”, “lesbian.” You think they tell you who a person sleeps with, but they don’t tell you that. Like all labels, they refer to one thing and one thing only: Where does a person so identified fit in the food chain? In the pecking order. Not ideology or sexual taste, but something much simpler: clout. Who owes me favors. Not who I fuck or who fucks me, but who will pick up the phone when I call. To someone who doesn’t understand this, homosexual is what I am because I sleep with men, but this is wrong. Homosexuals are not men who sleep with other men. Homosexuals are men who, in 15 years of trying, can’t get a pissant anti-discrimination bill through City Council. They are men who know nobody, and who nobody knows.

      • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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        The real Roy Cohen didn’t consider himself gay, he just liked to sexually dominate young blond men. That was a sign of his masculinity.

        It should be noted that when he mentored Donald Trump and Roger Stone, they were both young blonde men.

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          Angels in America is a very good play that, I think, has only gotten better over time.

          HBO produced it as a TV miniseries with Al Pacino playing Roy Cohn back in 2003. There’s also a 2017 revival with Nathan Lane in the role. Either are 100% worth checking out.

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            Thanks for the recommend, I’m looking forward to watching it. I don’t know how I missed this, it was back when I still assumed everything HBO produced was good.

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      9 hours ago

      its bad for everyone else but not for him basically. don’t try to find logic - its a matter of privilege.

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      Why would they not? It is tradition that the left wing is split by minor differences in ideology while the right wing are united by hate regardless how contradictory otherwise.

      He is a useful idiot and ultra wealthy and ultra powerful and ultra influential and ultra useful on top of being an ultra idiot. They don’t have to embrace him, only let him do his thing until he is no longer useful. Fascism must always have enemies and when they are without the external ones they will turn on each other.

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      I’ve been wondering the same thing, and came to a conclusion that he’s a white christian nationalist above all else. Christian nationalists love a nazi, identity politics only matter when it’s not “one of us”. Moreover, he doesn’t promote gay or trans rights, because he’s above all that could technically hinder him if he wasn’t megarich. He doesn’t care, because it doesn’t affect him. He’s already won.

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      My guess is that the hate for trans people is giving people like Thiel an opportunity to “punch down” on a minority that is even more hated by the right.