But you’ve been arguing that any Totenkopf or Death’s Head is by definition a Nazi symbol. So clearly you must think the US Marines who flew that flag while killing actual historical Nazis must themselves have been Nazis.
Totenkopf isn’t the name of the symbol Platner had, it’s a general umbrella term for skull imagery. It’s not a singularly famous icon with a scary German name, it’s just one of many in a category. That specific design was used by some Nazis (not Nazis as a whole), but also by other armed forces groups previously.
It’s the Marine Raiders expeditionary flag, a military unit in WW2.
Skull and crossbones imagery has been used by militaries since the dawn of time. And if you look on the wikipedia article for Totenkopf, you’ll find it is indistinguishable from other skull and crossbones imagery. Totenkomf is just the German word for skull and crossbones. Wikipedia explicitly labels the following image a Totenkopf:
Honestly, you’re doing the equivalent of right wingers who hyperventilated about the fact that Obama attended a “Madrassa” for awhile as a child. The mouth breathers were too stupid to realize that madrassa is just the Arabic word for school.
There is no difference between a deaths head and a “totenkopf.” It literally means “dead person’s head” in German.
I’m not going to let the Nazis have the skull and crossbones. Sorry. Maybe you didn’t have a pirate stage as a kid, but I sure did. And I refuse to surrender that symbol to literal Nazis just because they happened to use it as one of the many banners they used for evil. Now, I suppose actual historical pirates were pretty evil too. But they weren’t Nazis. And when we celebrate pirates in popular culture, we’re not actually glorifying the acts of historical criminals. We’re basking in the romanticized version of that time and place.
Remember, there is no difference between a totenkopf and a skull and crossbones. The Nazis used one type of totenkopf, but totenkopf is a generic term that has the same meaning as deaths head or skull and crossbones. It’s no different than Germany vs. Deutchland. They’re the same thing. And skull and bones imagery has been used by people since the dawn of time. It’s part of our shared culture and history of humanity. I’m not going to let the Nazis take that from us. It’s bad enough that the Nazis irredeemably corrupted the swastika. Now no one can use this ancient human symbol without being associated with those bastards. And that is a tragedy. We lost something, a little piece of our past. Certainly not the worst of the Nazis crimes, but one of them.
The Nazis used countless symbols. The Swastika was their main one, so it made sense to just go away from using that entirely. But they had several other symbols. And we can’t just surrender to them and just accept that those are now also theirs. Sorry. I’m not giving up pirates.
But you’ve been arguing that any Totenkopf or Death’s Head is by definition a Nazi symbol. So clearly you must think the US Marines who flew that flag while killing actual historical Nazis must themselves have been Nazis.
The picture presented is not a Totenkopf though.
What is the name of the flag? Or a source of it? I don’t recognize it.
The flag is also a totenkopf.
Totenkopf isn’t the name of the symbol Platner had, it’s a general umbrella term for skull imagery. It’s not a singularly famous icon with a scary German name, it’s just one of many in a category. That specific design was used by some Nazis (not Nazis as a whole), but also by other armed forces groups previously.
It’s the Marine Raiders expeditionary flag, a military unit in WW2.
Skull and crossbones imagery has been used by militaries since the dawn of time. And if you look on the wikipedia article for Totenkopf, you’ll find it is indistinguishable from other skull and crossbones imagery. Totenkomf is just the German word for skull and crossbones. Wikipedia explicitly labels the following image a Totenkopf:
Honestly, you’re doing the equivalent of right wingers who hyperventilated about the fact that Obama attended a “Madrassa” for awhile as a child. The mouth breathers were too stupid to realize that madrassa is just the Arabic word for school.
There is no difference between a deaths head and a “totenkopf.” It literally means “dead person’s head” in German.
Lmao you’re doing God’s work out here rehabilitating the totenkopf’s image. Just… why? Other than the obvious reason…
I’m not going to let the Nazis have the skull and crossbones. Sorry. Maybe you didn’t have a pirate stage as a kid, but I sure did. And I refuse to surrender that symbol to literal Nazis just because they happened to use it as one of the many banners they used for evil. Now, I suppose actual historical pirates were pretty evil too. But they weren’t Nazis. And when we celebrate pirates in popular culture, we’re not actually glorifying the acts of historical criminals. We’re basking in the romanticized version of that time and place.
Remember, there is no difference between a totenkopf and a skull and crossbones. The Nazis used one type of totenkopf, but totenkopf is a generic term that has the same meaning as deaths head or skull and crossbones. It’s no different than Germany vs. Deutchland. They’re the same thing. And skull and bones imagery has been used by people since the dawn of time. It’s part of our shared culture and history of humanity. I’m not going to let the Nazis take that from us. It’s bad enough that the Nazis irredeemably corrupted the swastika. Now no one can use this ancient human symbol without being associated with those bastards. And that is a tragedy. We lost something, a little piece of our past. Certainly not the worst of the Nazis crimes, but one of them.
The Nazis used countless symbols. The Swastika was their main one, so it made sense to just go away from using that entirely. But they had several other symbols. And we can’t just surrender to them and just accept that those are now also theirs. Sorry. I’m not giving up pirates.