• mateomaui@reddthat.com
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    2 years ago

    “Bought this Tesla before Elon Musk became a huge asshole. Sorry”

    wait, Tesla didn’t exist back then

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        nah, always been one, like I said to what looks like a deleted reply:

        If the sticker said “I bought this before Tesla was taken over by a huge asshole”, my response would be different.

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          As someone who’s not American, and has never followed Musk or anything he’s done before, I bought mine before it was clear to me how much of a fucking psychopath he really is.

          It was the only reasonably priced EV here at the time of purchase, but man I actually kind of feel ashamed driving it around now. There are tons of things I love about the car, quite a few things I dislike, but the only thing that actually makes me regret the purchase is that piece of shit. And I’m nowhere wealthy enough to sell it at a loss and go for something else now.

          Really hope he’s forced to leave the company someday…

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        2 years ago

        If the sticker said “I bought this before Tesla was taken over by a huge asshole”, my response would be different.

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    2 years ago

    I remember when Teslas used to be cool.

    Now I see them all the time, and they might as well swap the badge for one that says “cunt”, it would be less embarrassing.

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      I remember a time when the Prius was head turning. It was the first “real” car to be a hybrid. That was interesting.

      I would say that the Prius was never cool though.

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        I got upgraded to one when I rented a car a few years ago, it was actually really nice. Although I’m someone who is used to driving clunkers (the local AAA tow truck drivers all knew my family, lol) and the engine shutting off at the light always freaked me out.

        I saw a nice looking sedan roll past me one evening and when I saw it was a new Prius I knew I was officially getting old.

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      Tesla drivers were the new BMW douchebags on the road well before he bought Twitter. I got buzzed by in a parking lot the other day by someone doing at least 30, so close it felt like a huge gust of wind. Turned to see a teslas within a foot of me. Jackass drivers in near silent cars in parking lots are a great combo. If the sensors and self driving worked for shit it would of never let them get that close to me.

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        Poor manufacture quality and you have to subscribe to use car features it already has. Good thing you can hack them.

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          Efficiency, battery price for the cost, power, and charge time/long distance speed are measurably objectively in the top tier (although not uniquely so or not the singular best).

          Not worth it for the shoddy construction, abusive customer-exploitative remote control that means you never own it, false advertising, and cultural association (also not uniquely so).

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      Buy a Tesla because you’re trying to help the environment and it was regarded as the best EV at the time

      Tesla starts making their products shittier

      Tesla lied about range

      Tesla CEO loses his mind, buys a social media company, drives it into the ground

      Someone on the internet says you’re a cunt because you own a Tesla

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    Electric cars are still cars, and therefore do fuck-all to fix the real problem of excessive use of land for parking lots, low-density zoning, and lack of walkability.

    The only way to have communities that are healthy and sustainable (ecologically, financially, or otherwise) is to fix the zoning code so that folks don’t need to drive in the first place.

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        Oh man when almost everything was remote my commute was so nice. 12 miles in 15 - 17 minutes instead of almost double that everyday.

        Unfortunately I operate a forklift so I have to be there in person but damn was it super nice.

        Currently I’m trying to encourage and raise support for more bike infrastructure locally so it’s an actually viable option intead of it’s currently not so viable state.

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        Convert all the empty offices to apartments. Solves housing supply problems, makes a lot of dense units instead of sprawl, puts them right next to any of the offices that have reopened, and would make the owners of the office buildings happy so they’d hopefully get out of the way of WFH (if they’re doing any lobbying or propaganda or whatnot).

        I know it’s too expensive to be worth it, but it’s a perfect thing for governments to give grants for since it has so many benefits.

        It’s happening a bit in Canada.

        Projects are undervway in Calgary and Halifax; others are being planned or debated in Toronto, London, Ont., and Yellowknife.

        From here

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          You can have healthy and sustainable communities without high density housing or any of the comforts of urban living. In fact, humans have lived in low density rural communities for thousands of years.

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            If you take both the population and area of greater houston without the urban core, there is one hectare of suburban wasteland per person.

            One person per hectare isn’t the rural settlement in your imagined past, it’s a single family and a few farm hands living on an unusually large and high-labor productivity farm way out of town.

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            No. Humans have lived in walkable villages and towns built at missing middle densities (hundreds to a few thousand people and markets all within walking distance linked by long distance travel corridors you walked to or what you are calling ‘urban’) with local services and a handful of people living on the outskirts.

            Endless suburban seas of <500 people per km^2 were invented for the automobile. The past you are counterfactually claiming exists did not have half an acre of roads, car parks, 4-car garages, set backs and car yards per resident, nor did it have all the services in a central gigantic box building 20 miles away through a sea of identical houses, nor did your rural people demand those in higher density regions provode them with infrastructure for heating, cooling, water and sewerage. Nor did they demolish all the houses around the market just in case they wanted to leave a cart there.

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              You have a very US-centric perspective on “sustainability”.

              There are plenty of sustainable communities all over the world, today as in the past, that consist of 100s to 1000s of people living in low density housing within reach of a small center.

              Some of their garages have two cars, some have only a moped, and some have no vehicles at all.

              They are generally rural, not suburban. Not all are near big box stores. Those with big box stores existed before the big box stores arrived, and they would continue to exist if the big box stores left.

              Their existence does not necessarily depend on support from higher density regions, especially in parts of the world where higher density regions will ignore their requests anyway.

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                These are the walkable non-suburban communities being talked about. Why are you trying to use examples of the desired outcome as a counter example (and reason to continue destroying said towns)?

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                  I am responding to the suggestion that only high-density communities are sustainable. That’s simply not true. It is possible for people to live sustainably in either low density or high density communities.

                  Which in turn implies that the problem with suburbs is not necessarily their density, but other factors.

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    Extra frustrating because even though Musk is associated wholesale with Tesla, he is not actually a founder.

    Yet another example of the rich running shit into the ground with poor decisions.

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    Clicked through the first link and saw like half a dozen stickers with the only joke conservatives have ever been able to think of; “x identifies as y”. Imagine thinking that’s such a pinnacle of comedy that you reuse it for everything you can think of for years and years, never tiring of it.

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    I would prefer they drive a Tesla than a petrol car. But if they swap to another electric car, I’ll take it. I hope they advocate for better public transport links locally though.

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      What would be the purpose of swapping ?

      It wouldn’t automagically reuse the resources used to build the Tesla car into another one.

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        This is a stretch but with bad press the resale value of existing teslas may drop to within reach of more consumers who would otherwise drive an ICE.

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    I’m sure the resale value plummeting after the driving range bullshit was exposed probably doesn’t factor into the not selling. Right?

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    Tesla is not a company of one person.

    Edit: I get wanting to protect yourself from folks who want to take their Elon rage out on random tesla, but isn’t it easier to just talk to folks about this?

    Thank you for sharing the article, op.

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      A significant part of what Tesla is, is Elon Musk. If not for Musk’s wild and broken promises, Tesla wouldn’t be as overvalued as it is. Tesla without Musk would probably make better cars, but without him running the world’s biggest confidence game from the top office, it wouldn’t have the valuation it currently has.

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      I mean if you bought a normal car and then the owner of the car company turns out to be an asshole, who cares?

      But if you buy a Tesla the owner of the car company can force an update on you tomorrow because he’s a cunt. So there is still direct influence. I don’t want to know how badly the terms and conditions for Tesla software is worded, if they can randomly up subscription cost, limit your range (to protect the battery of course), shut off features and put them behind a subscription, …

      Or hell, if a Tesla is located in Ukraine it might just not start at all, they also shut down Starlink.

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      Yeah too bad that idiot at the top hasn’t been thrown out like in any normal company and the company is using resources to accommodate his whims.

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      Its always a debate which CEO has the word to stop a company. Let’s say do you think if he really wanted to Satya Nadella could just stop Microsoft? I do believe he could not. On the other hand I do believe Elon could stop Tesla even though he is only ~21% into the company.

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      When you find out the owner of the brand you’re literally flying the flag of is a fascist, and you don’t make a change, it’s at that point you become the asshole flying the fascists flag. Elon Musk IS Tesla. nice try though dickhead.

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        Whoops. The CEO of my car’s company is a douche canoe. Guess I gotta buy a new car.

        Fuck no, man. I hate Musk, and I’ll happily express that sentiment to anyone who asks, but I’m not taking on a car payment or trading in my 2019 M3 with tons of life left in it to make a political point.

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        Wow I really appreciate your comment. No idea why you feel the need to call me a name though. Anyways, thanks stranger. Your opinion is enlightening.

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    Whatever. I bought a tesla because it's still the best EV when it comes to range and charging network, and during the pandemic Tesla was the only manufacturer who didnt inflate cost due to chip shortages. I dont care for Musk, but most ceo's are douches, hes just the loudest.
    
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      Yeah pretty much my view. Musk is a loud asshole. You don’t think the execs at Ford or GM or Chrysler aren’t just as/more evil? Using their billions to further slant laws their way and rig the system for their benefit and at our expense…

      That being said though I wouldn’t buy one at this point probably. Up until a year or two ago, maybe.

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        I own a Model Y. It’s a great car, but I don’t think I’d buy another Tesla. I’m hoping by the time I’m in the market for another car, there are viable competitors with a good charging network (most likely will be due to NACS) or the competition has forced Tesla to cut their bullshit and treat consumers better.

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    No one cares about the rich assholes who own other car companies, so why Tesla? For example Toyota were some of the biggest campaign donors to Trump.

    Also what does this have to do with Fuck Cars? This is about the minutiae of car culture… We should be talking about trains and bicycles here.

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    Meh, I don’t give a fuck. Best car I’ve ever owned and Musk can eat a diiiiiiiiiiiiick.

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      when you find out the owner of the brand you’re literally flying the flag of is a fascist, and you don’t make a change, it’s at that point you become the asshole flying the fascists flag. virtue signaling. jesus fucking christ.

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        I’ve got no clue what point you’re trying to make. Are you pro-bumper sticker or something? “Sorry I shoulda boycotted.” Very helpful.

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        “Eat the rich” is. “I don’t like the guy who profited off this car” is quite weak. I don’t expect many Tesla owners to expouse eating the rich though.