Indulge me for the coming delusion, but if we ignore who this is, forget all the reasons we know that we can’t trust him, and allow ourselves just a few moments to hope that we could live in such a world.
A world where manual labor is no longer needed, where people can just exist as large mammals are meant to exist. Robots will handle it all and we can just do as we please… and the robots are going to be plentiful because once enough of the process of making a robot becomes automated, the cost of it will go to zero. But to get there it is going to require a ton of money… these robots are going to be way too expensive for people to actually buy them, so investors and governments will help out. The investors will eventually lose everything, but that will put us on the way to having everything we need to be created through completely automated systems.
Of course, there will still be jobs for those who really want them - or more likely, who want them and are good at them - or even more likely, who knows the right people… but if we can get our basic needs taken care of it night not fully end poverty but it would be a step in the right direction.
But, alas… It’s Musk saying it so it’s only to further enrich himself and won’t actually happen.
It’s crazy how we all know this dude is the male cracked out version of Elizabeth Holmes and getting paid unfathomable sums of money to commit all of these obvious and serious crimes in public.
That’s not money, that’s power. Money quits being money somewhere around a million dollars a year-ish, call it 100M lump sum. Above that, more money isn’t an abstract thing you buy goods, services and real-estate with, it’s power: the power to command other people to do your bidding.
Unless you buy Twitter.
No, that was absolutely that. Do you not think he gained a massive amount of control with that?
No one takes X seriously.
Is that why most politicians, musicians, comedians etc, still treat it as their main platforms to get info out? Because they don’t take it seriously?
The big problem is actually that they do. That social inertia works so slowly that they didn’t.
That some random crypto company making Bluesky was the closest to a solution, and it looks like it will also have some power crazed person leading it.
I still think there’s a difference.
When people talk about wielding money like power, its more along the lines of
- if you don’t do what I say, I’ll destroy you by doing XYZ.
- you better change your laws or I can fuck shit up in some way.
- I can break the law because you can’t fucking touch me.
- Your example: the power to command other people to do your bidding.
For Twitter he actually used his wealth as actual money to buy something you would buy with money.
He did get power from it yes, but I still think there’s a distinction when talking about wiedling it as power vs using money as money.
Gotta say this difference seems very arbitrary. He bought a company, and platform. Both direct how people spend their time. A platform is obvious but a company, he directs what the people who work there work on. Its definitely a match to somewhere far past where money buys you things.
There’s all kinds of power and influence of people through the press is a very traditional kind of indirect power for people to wield. When I talk about money as power it definitely includes the power to influence how people think and vote and act without putting an actual gun to their heads. Twitter is the new TV and TV was the new radio and the radio was the new newspaper… All kinds of wealthy and powerful people in the past sought control of the press, not only for their own desires, but also as a bargaining chip with other people with power: “do this for me and I’ll make you look good on my platform…”
He bought the whole US president. Watch him kill SLS and Gateway the second Issacman gets confirmed as head NASA admin. I don’t know why private companies don’t fund their own shit rather than steal from taxpayerS through NASA.
I don’t know why private companies don’t fund their own shit rather than steal from taxpayerS through NASA.
It’s not that they can’t fund their own: it’s “why would they, when they can use their wealth and influence to get it funded by taxpayers?” https://youtu.be/kTlhIQeBWHI?t=20
These are forward looking claims on something they are building. It’s not quite the same.
FSD is closer, but it is an improving product.
It’d be more like if FSD wasn’t ever improving even and yet he still kept making the claims.
He should still be punished for the FSD stuff though.
He sounds quite deranged. Maybe he needs a timeout in a sift padded room. Without internet.
he needs to lay off the ketamine and cocaine.
No. He needs to take more. The amount he’s currently taking is a measly “woke-trans-vegan-lib-radical-left amount for girls”.
If he was a real man and a genius, he’d double the amount of ketamine and cocaine he takes every day.
So twice as much today, 4x as much tomorrow, 8x as much the day after…
yea and he deserves a nice hot bath to relieve from all the drug-induced stress
I mean… how many of yall saw him on Joe Rogan a week ago?
Like you actually watched it all
Do it coward, bet you won’t
Or just give all your money away to poor people. By my calculations that would be about $25k per poor adult.
So he is investing in armed robots that just kill the poor to end poverty?
Perhaps he should get Full Self Driving to work first… 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ooh ooh and that hyper-loop bullshit. Oh and that tunnel boreing thing.
I still can’t believe the man tried to sell tunnels lmao. Actually sold one to Vegas 😭
Premiere of Ontario wants then under hundreds of kilometers of highway.
But not for trains or public transit??
…Fake solar tiles, manned missions to Mars, fake electric semi trucks, mind controlling brain implants…
I think you may have misunderstood…it’s actually fool self driving.
That’s already killing people, he’s looking to the future with his robot army
This is going to make a world similar to the Time Machine. A massive group will happily outsource their need to think for the pleasure of leisure.
The Elon-oi.
I’d be OK if my descendents got to eat them.
Fuck Leon Hitler and his idea of eliminating poverty is China’s 9-9-6 slave labor conditions.
Everyone single one of his companies is propped up on bullshit and government contracts. Tesla stock is a meme stock. The board and major shareholders will buy up all his bullshit and broken promises just to keep the stock price up. They cannot afford to have Tesla stock go down. Only up.
I’m not sure if this kind of thing is just about enriching himself. Of course that’s a big part of it. But he also wants to be a great man of history. He wants to be the person who saves the world. He wants to be forever remembered as the greatest hero who ever lived.
He won’t, of course. Because he’s a clueless idiot. A clueless idiot who managed to fuck up his own PR so hard that he’s burnt away the reputation as a genius that he used to have.
But he really does want to be adored.
Now you put a stupid idea in front of me of Musk doing shit for the common folk just because no one in the higher class wants to have to deal with him, just to stroke his ego and make it to history books.
Ultimate pettiness that would benefit the whole world.
Worst part is, some naive part of me believes this idiot is capable of that. xD
just about enriching himself. Of course that’s a big part of it.
Can’t make the big changes without big $$$ to make things happen.
Unfortunately, he looks like a delusional moron with the life experience and grasp on reality of a suburban 14 year old. So, a couple of good ideas in there, but absolute disconnect from the realpolitik necessary to effect true change.
In late October 2021, Elon Musk was challenged to end world hunger by David Beasley, the director of the UN’s World Food Programme. Beasley claimed that a small portion of Musk’s wealth could solve world hunger, and Musk responded on Twitter that he would sell Tesla stock to do so, provided the UN could provide a detailed, transparent accounting of how the $6 billion would be spent. The WFP then released a plan, but Musk did not donate the money.
Doubt
Come on, nobody is going to eliminate poverty. That’s not on the agenda.
Plus we don’t even have a road how to make robots that could make other robots.
Eliminate the poor.
Eliminate poverty.
The wealthy only need maintain their indefatigable AI robot slaves.
Simple.
eliminate the poor, save the world. thats what he really means.
I’m not even going to look up what “Optimus” is. I don’t waste time on this clown anymore.
You just know already he’s gonna scam, grift and cheat to get that pay package, not do anything worthwhile.
And if he can’t get it, he’ll cry and sue to get it anyway.
You’ve already seen it most likely, that stupid bipedal robot that isn’t autonomous yet and can barely navigate on a concrete floor.
It’s simply a way to get a trillion dollars by spending a few million on a project that gets scrapped.
