But if we vote/advocate third parties, or converse in conservative spaces or .ML, .Lemmygrad*, on Lemmy, we’re trolls or shills. 🤮
When have people (outside isolated trolls) accused 3rd-party advocates of being shills? If the “Tanky Triad” only supported an end to “first-past-the-post” voting, that would be one thing. But when I visit, I’m inundated with propaganda championing fascists who want to ignore reality and bend the population to their will. That’s not liberalism, and it’s certainly not Progressive Politics…
When have people (outside isolated trolls) accused 3rd-party advocates of being shills?
Take a look at some older posts from before the election. It was a fucking witchhunt on third-party advocates. Every single one was accused of being a paid russian shill. Every. Single. One. lol
Yep! Lemmy loves to complain about the Democratic party, but as soon as ya mention third-party, you’re banned from everywhere for being a troll. Or Lemmy’s other fav insults: Nazi and Fascist. They’ll even say we’re paid to talk about third parties.
At this point, Lemmy is getting what they deserve. They’ll lost next presidential election to if they don’t wake the fuck up. :)
Lemmy: The time has come for a new third party! One made up of honest working class people, with infinity time and money between elections to campaign starting now. Oh also you need to go from 0% to 51% in one election cycle or just scrap the whole thing.
So how many election cycles do we give them? Serious question.
Look at the Green Party as a prime example:
1996 - 0.71%
2000 - 2.74%
2004 - 0.10%
2008 - 0.12%
2012 - 0.36%
2016 - 1.07%
2020 - 0.26%
2024 - 0.56%29 years, 8 general elections, 0 electoral college votes. Zero.
To put that in perspective, more electoral college votes have been awarded by ACCIDENT (2004), than have been won total by the Green party in 29 years.
More electoral college votes have been awarded by faithless electors (2016) than have been won by the Green party.
Their best run was with Nader in 2000 and even that did not move the needle.
I can’t imagine why there should be a limit. What happens when we reach it?
Why on earth did he reply to your 5 month old comment? Weird.
If a third party can’t win an election in nearly 30 years, it’s not really an alternative to anything. Time to let it go.
Let it go and do what? The plan that has won over the last 30 years was the fascist one.
You let the Green party go. They can’t get 1% of the vote, haven’t won an election in any state, it’s past time to give up the illusion that they are a real party.
Primaries are where you fall in love, the General election is where you fall in line unless you want the opposition to win.
The folks I banned here weren’t honestly advocating third party, they were conservatives attempting to split the Democratic vote.
Once the mask came off they were banned. I probably gave them more rope than I should have.
