Yes that stuck out as so crazy “I may be Jewish but at least I’m not…” Like…and you people wonder why your party is accused of being antisemitic lol?

I see what you’re saying. You’re not talking about “making sense” in an ethical or social well-being sense, you mean it’s literally confusing why the technology wouldn’t be used for all kinds of crimes, given that it already exists - irrespective of whether the technology should be used. Is that right? I think you’re getting downvoted because it kinda sounds like you’re saying this is all a good idea when you say it “makes sense”. Unfortunate English ambiguities. But you’re saying, like, sure it’s dystopian and creepy and wrong, but why wouldn’t the creepy dystopia use the tech for all cases then rather than just some? That’s a good question. I think because there is legitimately some understanding of the dangers of using these powerful tools willy-nilly. While people aren’t perfect angels, they also aren’t perfect devils either. Another factor is that there is some pressure to appear not to be overly heavy-handed with these tools - as we see in those chats, they knew it made them look bad for this to get out.

And the final most pessimistic factor is that this Flock company almost certainly charges per seat, so giving direct usernames and logins to every officer or even every department is probably absurdly expensive. Companies (in this case the police) will often try to limit their license seats to as few people as possible and then just funnel as much different people’s work through that one person’s license as they can.

For real. Like, are there no straight people who hate gay people then? Hmm

It does make sense. Police are not perfect saint-like beings, and the government is not composed of perfect beings either. I’m not sure what kind of person you are, but I’m sure there are some things you enjoy and partake in which some other social group really despises. If you’re religious, it may be militant atheists who despise you going to church. If you’re not religious, it may be militant theists who despise you not going to church. The point is, there’s probably some social cultures out there that hate you for the things that you love. Those people may not be in charge right now, but they might be one day. Those people can end up in police departments, as developers for these camera companies, as administrators for the database that collects information on where you drive and when. Those people, being imperfect as they are, may not always resist the temptation to use this system in a way to track down and identify people like you for doing whatever it is that you love and they hate. Now you end up on a list for that.

There’s no denying that sophisticated surveillance technology does make it easier to catch criminals and does legitimately protect from the threats those criminals pose. But surveillance technology, by it’s very nature, cannot surveil only the criminals - it has to surveil everyone to find the criminals. And the notion of what is criminal may change. If your favorite hobby becomes criminalized, or if the government criminalizes your identity itself, these beautifully effective tools are suddenly turned against you.

There is a happy medium to be found between giving your society tools to enforce the will of constituents, vs. giving your society tools that be too easily abused. Given that this tool is already being abused, it probably isn’t worth the benefits.

Cool! I had no idea it was deeper than just a physical interface change.

Please explain? I get that the chubby bird is speaking assembly, but I’m sure there’s more to it than that?

That was fast! I feel like I only started hearing about Flock, what, two weeks ago?

Yeah but police literally get away with murder here so I don’t think this will end up making a big splash

"Davis said she’s been “called Hitler, I’ve been called [a] hypocrite, I’ve been called a homophobe.”

“I’ve been called things and names that I didn’t even say when I was in the world. Those names don’t hurt me,” Davis said. “What probably hurt me the worst is when someone tells me that my God does not love me or that my God is not happy with me, that I am a hypocrite of a Christian.”"

Lmao, so you don’t mind being called Hitler, but being called a fake Christian - now that’s insulting! Tells you everything you need to know

homer patting Bart on the shoulder meme

The most successful method so far!

Idk. This particular thing is bad enough that I’m not sure it’s meant to be a distraction. Trump is up to other actually bad things besides distracting from the files. Like, at this point I feel like if Trump went on live TV and declared himself dictator for life people would be like “nice try distracting us from the Epstein files!”. At some point he ain’t distracting, he’s just getting back to his main tasks

I don’t know if I like assuming that obedience is a genetically heritable trait. I’ve heard racists use this assumption to argue that racially Chinese people are more likely to be sneaky servile backstabbers because that’s what their genetics are selected for due to their political past.

Controversial statement incoming: I also don’t want to preemptively rule out the possibility of obedience, or anything else, being genetically heritable - even if it could lead to these uncomfortable conclusions. I think scientific studies should be done about such things to answer the questions of whether these personality traits are heritable, come what may of that knowledge. But to my relief, from the studies I’ve seen, personality traits heritability is on very shaky ground in most cases.

I was just yesterday talking to someone about how AI drones, specifically exactly AI drones, will be a pivotal piece of technology in a way I think even beyond nukes in some sense. With a decent AI drone swarm, it’s not hard to imagine a SINGLE person dominating an entire population. The dictator’s purest dream - none of those pesky military generals getting uppity.

What do you mean by dox here? I usually think of dox as being, real name, real address, etc. But I’m having trouble seeing how even my Lemmy instance admin could figure that out about me.

I hate to beat this very dead horse, but tacky is the thing that least jumps out at me here. I mean. This literally looks like Nazi decor. The eagles, the frowning busts, the ornateness, like…

Leave it to nytimes to push such a simplifying, party-lines division dumbass narrative. No, it’s rich people fucking over poor people, as per always. But we can’t publish that!

HATE. UNBRIDLED HATE. NO FATE IS TOO BAD FOR THIS SCUM. REEE

You’re not alone. Nuance is just harder to convey, takes more effort to post something nuanced. And so people do it less, myself included. But I think truthfully that many people are not so stuck in one or the other circlejerks. It’s lovely to see people in this thread who are annoyed by both.

Idunno if it counts as ageism when they’re talking about stupid behavior among people with minds that are factually, biologically, not finished developing. Same reason it isn’t ageist to say “ten year olds are not allowed to drive cars because they aren’t smart enough to do it responsibly”

“i do not give a single fuck” implies an additive identity fuck, and “I don’t give two fucks” implies a multiplicative identity fuck. That’s a start at least!