• grte@lemmy.ca
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    The actual content is way better now than it was the first couple of months after the Reddit thing. Initially a lot of the comments were either Reddit related or people trying to force communities that didn’t necessarily have the population to survive, yet. That’s all fallen away now and the content feels much more organic. Someone opening a Lemmy instance for the first time is going to find today’s front page much more engaging than what it looked like in June/July.

    Lemmy is becoming its own thing rather than a reflection of Reddit.

    In some ways a lot more responsive as well. The news that Kissinger died was all over Lemmy for hours before I noticed one post about it crack the front page of Reddit, for example.

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    I gotta be honest…I am hanging on by a threat. The communities that I was engaged with on Reddit before the Snoopacolypse were pretty niche. I wasn’t there for r/funny or r/videos, etc. I found similar communities on Lemmy, but they have soooooo little activity. I have to modify my sort just to see content, as its so old. When there are posts, they typically get very little discussion.

    I am on Lem.ee, and I have the hardest time posting anything from mobile. It looks like it fails, and if I sort by new, it isn’t there and never shows up - HOWEVER, I start getting replies, so someone is seeing it somehow.

    I detest what reddit did and is still doing - but Lemmy is not filling that void for me, and its frustrating.

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      Same for me. I browsed Reddit exclusively for a bunch of small but active communities about books and niche games or shows. Most of those either don’t have a place on Lemmy, or the place they have is a ghost town. Too little posts, and even fewer engagement. I frequently see posts with upvotes in the single digits and zero comments.

      I don’t plan on going back to Reddit, but at the same time I don’t think that Lemmy is a valid substitute yet. Maybe it’s also a problem of discoverability? Like, I heard of Lemmy during the APIcalypse, but I’ve never seen it mentioned anywhere else, and I don’t know how a normal person looking for a community online is supposed to find Lemmy, or even learn the existence of it.

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        I think you may have misunderstood. I have FOUND communities, but there is not much engagement or activity. I have resorted to discord channels for most of them, but it is not the same.

        Some of my most active subreddits were different 3d printing and 3d modeling groups, groups for games like Overwatch, and Payday. Different AI focused groups, but specifically groups like the Stable Diffusion sub, Subreddits that discuss my favorite shows, or styles of music. None of that is active here. It isn’t that they don’t exist on Lemmy, they are just ghost towns. I joined multiple instances and am very active and engaged on multiple accounts, on some of these groups - but there is not response. I was in the top 3% of karma earners on Reddit - and I did that by submitting and commenting a lot. That just doesn’t happen here (yet).

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          Let me put this another way: if I create an overwatch community on https://level-up.zone, would you be willing to contribute there?

          Also: If I set up the alien.top bots to mirror content from the overwatch sub, could you use that as a hook to reach out to redditors and tell them how to migrate to Lemmy?

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            I have tried to jumpstart a few communities by posting and commenting regularly . I would try a new one, but if people do not find or join, it will get caught in the same cycle as the existing groups. I like participating, but am not interested in being the single driving force, or moderating.

            To answer your other question, I cannot stand when I see auto mirrored content from Reddit. I usually ignore those posts, as I have rarely seen comments happening. When the content wasn’t created by somebody here, I don’t think anybody is invested in maintaining or participating in the discussion.

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              We need to start somewhere. The mirrored content (and by content, I mean posts and comments as well) is meant to be a way to help bootstrap the communities. I can help as well, but only by giving you the tools to make this easier and in avoiding the feeling you’d be talking to yourself.

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    Zoomed out graph including some months before the join wave

    Users/month are relatively stable now at 33x users/month compared to pre join wave (users/month is people who have posted or commented)

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    Here’s the thing though… I’ve been on Reddit for over a decade before Lemmy, and whilst there may be less interaction the interactions themselves have been far more sincere. People are more willing to engage, and even with this random comment there’s a chance someone would comment below.

    The community feel of Lemmy is something, at least I’ve found, Reddit had lost a very long time ago.

    Sort of a quality Vs quantity thing I guess?

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    Frustrating because of all the decentralized platforms lemmy feels the closest to the original. I’m still on Reddit because there’s more there but the app fucking sucks so much.

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      I go there to passively consume short videos of stuff that isn’t here, but fuck if I’m gonna comment or vote. I don’t even sign in.

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      I truly don’t mean this as a derogative comment, but as someone who just uses the website, and not an app, do you feel like you’re absolutely need to use an app to use Lemmy?

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    For anybody interested, the monthly active users including voters is 131,150 (131k)

    The one in the graph only takes into account people who have made a post or comment

    Edit: The halfyear active users including voters is 253,166 (253k)

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      This is a great metric-explainer. What impressive numbers. Now we really know how successful this migration has been.

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    What is considered as active ? Is someone connecting to his account and lurking considered active ? Or, someone who just up/downvote without commenting or posting ?

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      Users who posts or comments. I’m not sure about votes tho 🤔

      Edit: its posts or comments. No lurkers. I think they should include voters to get an actual number.

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        programming.dev changed how active users are calculated on their instance to include voters as well as posters & commentators. It’s a massive difference - programming_humor went from about 700 monthly active users to about 7000, for example.

        Viewing communities from other instances from programming.dev’s perspective will give a figure that includes voting activity.

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    I think its because we aren’t allowed by default to post images, which I completely understand after what happened back a couple months ago. I’ve been using Lemmy for more then 4 months actively but yet I still don’t have permission to post pictures because of the fact that I’m too lazy to even try to get it enabled. This is a major reason why we aren’t seeing a lot of content.

    Also, this tends to be mostly a leftist leaning app, so maybe some people get drawn away.

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      I was really on-board of the idea of Lemmy in the beginning. It all made a lot of sense, and I felt like a part of the community.

      But now it feels like its just an echo chamber of people, who seems to have very extreme beliefs.

      It’s starting to be clear that the whole “ML - Leninism Marxism” was actually a big part of Lemmy.

      I’m a centrist, slightly leaning towards the left, but I don’t feel like I truly belong in the demographic of Lemmy any longer. Reddit is starting to pull me back, and Boost still works, which only makes it harder to resist…

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        Extreme leftist politics, memes, linux, a weirdly active Star Trek community (comparatively) and blocking furry/anime porn communities daily. That’s been my experience so far.

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      being left leaning is not the issue, but when opinions even slightly to the right of extreme left are censored and removed, it doesn’t encourage participation or conversation

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    What this shows us is that more people are joining lemmy, but even more people are either leaving or going into lurker mode, as Lemmy only counts people who have commented or posted in that time period as active users, whereas most social media counts any activity while logged in as active. You have to realize that people who use reddit as Google search results don’t usually interact with the content there and most won’t even make an account.

    On the upside, with fewer people, it’s easy to get noticed here just by contributing good content since you don’t really get drowned out here because of the democratic upvote based sorting instead of black box personalized recommendation algorithms. So with relatively low amount of effort, you can make sure your content is being seen instead of relying on analytics and metrics.

    The last thing to in mind that Lemmy is only one aspect of ActivityPub, and Mastodon’s growth is currently the highest right now because of the ecosystem created by the whale fall of Twitter, which indirectly grows Lemmy as Mastodon users can post directly to federated Lemmy communities.

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      I just got recommended this site after posting on reddit re: predatory algos and the necessary regulations needed to protect people and how algos have manipulated the UX so much its disrupted the originally intended purposes; ie insta has effectively become a marketing and advertising platform.

      So in response someone suggested finding alternatives to the popular social media sites and used Lemmy as an example.

      I have been loving it thus far - its old school reddit.

      this is my first comment on lemmy!

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        Welcome! So far, in my experience, this is a much friendlier community that… many of the alternatives.

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          Welcome! So far, in my experience, this is a much friendlier community that… many of the alternatives.

          Usually. There’s definitely some who want to take their pound of flesh out of you when you disagree with them on something, but overall not so bad.

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    I don’t care that the fediverse has a ton of traffic. It may not have the most users, but it definitely has the best