Thats a funny take given American history (revolutionary war and the near deity status those revolutionaries have here) and contemporary attitudes. Can’t say much more or I’m betting it’ll be removed.
Revolutionaries like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Ho Chi Minh, Kim Il-Sung, Huey P. Newton, and more are systemically demonized. The founding fathers of the US were revolutionary as far as they liberated the settler bourgeoisie from colonial tethers. Not sure what you are alluding to getting removed, Lemmy.ml is less strict than people pretend it is.
You can check what removed comments said by clicking the 3 dots and going to comment moderation history. Removed comments were ableist, sexist, or extremely rude. You can see many comments critical of socialism still up, despite this being a socialist community.
As for Pol Pot, Pol Pot was more of an agrarian nationalist than a socialist, and the overwhelming majority of Marxists today don’t support him. There was some Sino-Soviet split shenanigans going on back in the day with some supporting him for a time, but now we have added clarity from knowing just what actually happened there.
Yes, they absolutely would because Stalin, Lenin, and Mao drastically improved the conditions for the working majority. For example https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25495509/
If they’ve actually read theory and studied real world conditions, yes.
Let alone Stalin and Mao, any communist who disregards Lenin’s contribution to communist theory and praxis is basically just in it for the vibes and contrarian views to “own the left” (sort of like the MAGA “own the libs” nonsense)
All Marxist-Leninist communists support Stalin, Mao and Lenin, yes. These three men are not what the capitalists tell you, they were not brutal, dictatorial, mass murderers. The capitalists have to demonise them through lies because they were so effective as anti-capitalist leaders and they don’t want the masses to be inspired by them. It took me time to find that out and it might take you a while too.
Most Russians view Stalin and Lenin positively and most Chinese people view Mao positively too. Well, why would they if these men were so evil you might wonder? Well it’s either that their governments are lying about who they are or our governments are (it is the latter), however it is up to you to investigate this.
Here is a good place to start, the uploader is not a communist so you cannot claim bias btw, also I don’t agree with every conclusion he comes to:
Because no actual communist would say anything of the sort.
They would support stalin/lenin/mao?
The overwhelming majority of Marxists worldwide do. Opposition to those 3 is largely a western thing.
Learn something new every day
The ritualistic demonization of revolutionaries is largely a western tradition.
Thats a funny take given American history (revolutionary war and the near deity status those revolutionaries have here) and contemporary attitudes. Can’t say much more or I’m betting it’ll be removed.
Revolutionaries like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Ho Chi Minh, Kim Il-Sung, Huey P. Newton, and more are systemically demonized. The founding fathers of the US were revolutionary as far as they liberated the settler bourgeoisie from colonial tethers. Not sure what you are alluding to getting removed, Lemmy.ml is less strict than people pretend it is.
There’s a bunch of removed comments in this thread specifically… I have no idea what they said. Would Pol Pot be in that list? If not, why?
You can check what removed comments said by clicking the 3 dots and going to comment moderation history. Removed comments were ableist, sexist, or extremely rude. You can see many comments critical of socialism still up, despite this being a socialist community.
As for Pol Pot, Pol Pot was more of an agrarian nationalist than a socialist, and the overwhelming majority of Marxists today don’t support him. There was some Sino-Soviet split shenanigans going on back in the day with some supporting him for a time, but now we have added clarity from knowing just what actually happened there.
Pol Pot was installed and backed by the US. What do you think?
American “revolutionairy”: Slaveowning rapist bourgeois wannabe aristocrats
Maybe that has something to do with it.
Yes, they absolutely would because Stalin, Lenin, and Mao drastically improved the conditions for the working majority. For example https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25495509/
If they’ve actually read theory and studied real world conditions, yes.
Let alone Stalin and Mao, any communist who disregards Lenin’s contribution to communist theory and praxis is basically just in it for the vibes and contrarian views to “own the left” (sort of like the MAGA “own the libs” nonsense)
All Marxist-Leninist communists support Stalin, Mao and Lenin, yes. These three men are not what the capitalists tell you, they were not brutal, dictatorial, mass murderers. The capitalists have to demonise them through lies because they were so effective as anti-capitalist leaders and they don’t want the masses to be inspired by them. It took me time to find that out and it might take you a while too.
Most Russians view Stalin and Lenin positively and most Chinese people view Mao positively too. Well, why would they if these men were so evil you might wonder? Well it’s either that their governments are lying about who they are or our governments are (it is the latter), however it is up to you to investigate this.
Here is a good place to start, the uploader is not a communist so you cannot claim bias btw, also I don’t agree with every conclusion he comes to:
What If Everything You Knew About Stalin Was A Lie?