I hate Gen Z
Dude. I have a group that only talks on Facebook Messenger. It’s 100% Gen X and Millennials. Don’t blame the generation, it just makes you sound like an old man yelling “get off my lawn”.
Exactly. What’s annoying are oblivious people, who are the majority in every single generation.
true, but ive noticed that at least older people pretend to care about privacy
Since when? Boomers will click anything you send them, Gen X think they are too clever to be phished on their XP desktop, and Millennials will give you their entire credit history for $50 off a streaming service. The majority of every generation doesn’t give a shit about digital privacy.
Don’t blame the generation, it just makes you sound like an old man yelling “get off my lawn”.
I’m assuming that they are also Gen Z, with the whole college roommates thing.
Who the fuck uses instagram for group chats?
zoomers
My hot take is that Gen Z is less tech literate than Millennials and it’s almost entirely due to iOS.
Never take tech advice from someone who hasn’t removed the device manufacturers advertisement from their email signature
All my friends have android phones and they are tech illiterate. This is common thing in every generation ig. Not a gen z specific thing. I have seen millennial tech nerds and tech illiterates
I think it’s less to do with IOS vs Android and more to do with phone vs PC (potentially even ones where you had to use command prompt to do things). File systems, OS corruption, ability to replace parts, etc are not really things a typical phone-only user is going to deal with. There are a lot of primarily phone, tablet, Chromebook users these days and it abstracts away a lot of the lower-level stuff that millennials were forced to deal with to use AOL Instant Messenger to chat.
yep, a lot of people at my school have no laptop except the school provided Chromebook, use mostly iPhones, and due to using Chromebooks and iPhones for everything they never actually touch the inner workings of the OS
People have said that Linux sucks because there are barely any games and game mods for it
Yeah, go tell that to Steam about the steam deck lol, Stray runs great under proton, you can even get it to kinda-sorta work on low-end hardware
It’s because computers and phones have shifted to be simultaneously more complicated and with more intuitive UI for casual users. 75 years ago most people who owned a car could do a lot of routine maintenance and even some more advanced engine work because the cars were way simpler. Millennials just lucked out that they grew up in a tome when computers were way less complicated and also cheap enough to be consumer goods. It’s not because of any one company, but the natural evolution of the technology.
I wouldn’t say it’s lucky, there are tons of jobs that require & presume you to have the most basic knowledge about filesystem or folder hierarchy and the young hires I’ve had in the last few years act like I’m throwing them into an advanced calculus class. Mouths agape and eyebrows scrunched up as I slowly show them where files go, like I’ve invented fire in front of their eyes.
This reminded me of Principal Skinner’s “furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation”
Sounds like bullshit. I’m a millennial and most people I know know shit about computers. Even those who use them every day only know how to do the few things they need to do and that’s it.
So I don’t think gen Z is any worse in that, most people suck, regardless of generation, with computers and that’s it.
More people drive a car than understand how it works. They push the pedal and turn the wheel and get where they want to go. Of course that’s fine most of the time and we can’t all understand everything like a mechanic does. But when it’s something like a car or a computer that you use so, so much in your daily life and you don’t care to have even the most basic understanding of how it works… seems strange to me.
lol cope and be normal I guess? I understand insta isn’t great with privacy but it’s a group chat for your room mates. Make a burner account instead of forcing all of them to download some app they’ve never heard of for one group chat with people they are forced to be acquaintances with.
They’re likely all thinking you’re the odd man out because you’re making a fuss over a group chat.
Problem: group messaging
Smart solution: private lean messaging app
Stupid solution: a bloated social media app that will still fingerprint and track you and feed your data back even on a burner account
They’re likely all thinking you’re the odd man out
Blah blah friends jumping off a bridge.
Most people care about comfort and ease of use more than about privacy. Deal with it and stop complaining about what app others use.
Deal with it and stop complaining about what app others use.
Wut
Roommates aren’t exactly people you can painlessly choose not to communicate with. This isn’t about other people personally choosing to using an app on their daily life, this is them pushing OP to install spyware on their phone.
I do think you have to pick your battles when interacting digitally with people in your life, and I agree that you shouldn’t force anyone in to a solution they don’t want to use. But were I OP, I’d pick this battle. Refuse to use it, tell them they can leave you notes on the fridge.
You don’t have any context. I never made a fuss about it I simply suggested that we make a gc on Signal because it’s like iMessage for iOS and Android (cross compatible), but someone else suggested we can just create an old fashioned SMS group chat because they tend to miss notifications on other apps which is understandable and what we ended up doing. But the way this guy responded is a bit douchy for someone who does not know any of us and this is the second message we are ever receiving from him.
Why don’t you just respond why you think Signal is a better choice? Comments here won’t help regular people get with encryption.
I also don’t see how this relates to anything specific to gen z as I see the exact same behavior in my gen x / millenial peers.
Who TF is using Instagram for group chats?
Normal = using instagram lmao
If this an engineering school the future is in deeper doodoo than I even imagined.
“sent from my iphone”
Such signatures are so annoying. Who in the history ever read this and thought “yeah, you know what I’ll get an iPhone for email”? Stupid preset.
Holy shit! That’s the most depressing thing I read in a while. :(
Pretty normal reaction after the announcement that Signal got rid of SMS support. A bunch of folks I used to talk to read that and ditched Signal entirely for FB Chat.
Who still uses SMS ???
Clearly enough people for this to be a point, a big majority of people in the US still do at least in the places I’ve stayed in.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with SMS.
They had a good blog post about why - their take was that SMS is dying and the replacement was a moving target that was hard to support for reasons I’m forgetting. I agree it hurt them tremendously though.
I get that. That is specifically the reason they uninstalled Signal and started using FB.
How many other folks did that?
Probably a lot. I was very annoyed myself, though it made android pretty similar to the situation on iOS where you can’t replace the default messaging app anyway.
It’s an area where I think we need a bunch of stuff:
- Antitrust regulation to force companies to use open standards and allow customization
- Folks like the Signal Foundation should get over themselves and run their project like a real open source project, where others can fork/modify/run both the server side and client side.
There’s so much anti-competitive bullshit regarding #1 from all sides, from carriers to Apple to Google to device manufacturers.
Dude, I agree that everything is fucked up there but don’t blame Gen Z for that. The only reason zoomers are like that, IN THE US, is that they grew up with a large lobby of social media above them and their fathers. “Father, forgive them, for they don’t know what they are doing"
Generation war is a very stupid thing that was created precisely to keep us from those responsible for the current state of affairs: the big companies. It is true that most zoomers are stupid, but this is not their fault and it does not have to be that way forever.
I loathe the way kids use snapchat to text chat. They take a photo of their shoes then reply. 🤨
Just remember: it’s ok to be the weird guy that doesn’t use instagram and isn’t in the group chat.
I was overjoyed to learn everyone at my new job uses Signal… Apparently we can even install the desktop app on our work laptops, but I won’t go that far.
I fail to see any reason for hating a chat app so passionately except possibly for privacy concerns, which is definitely not the case here.
as a gen zer myself I would follow it up with WHY? give me a reason WHY. I don’t really see a difference between instagram groups and signal groups. I think what it is for most people is some lame app they will download for only that specific purpose. The only reason why iMessage is popular is it’s the default. If the EU passed a regulation to force Apple to have a default messager that only supported SMS, and iMessage to be a separate appstore app, or even just an extension for the messages app. it would die within a year. Meta groups are only popular cause they are tired to 2 of the biggest social platform being facebook and instagram.
