Hehe, we like meat so much that we’re going to ignore the fact that it destroys the environment and continue farming and eating it like there is still a billion of us on this planet. Also, the prices must be low but i don’t care that living beings are raised in hellish conditions for our convenience. We made it illegal to record those conditions so we don’t have to look at them. Meat delicious, I deserve it three meals a day because look at my prosperity.
Yeah. It’s the usual nonsense habits of people that they will defend to their dying breath
Thats what you get when you base your personality on what you eat.
You would think mutton would be more popular…
I know it’s a cliché, but say this on Reddit and you’ll be downvoted into oblivion. Tried it many times. Criticize meat and seemingly reasonable people suddenly start making the same circular arguments they usually mock.
People consider themselves good people and don’t like thinking about the consequences of their actions.
Same happens when you point out that children lose their limbs for our smartphones. People aren’t going to stop using their smartphones, aren’t going to consider themselves bad people, and so will rationalize however they can.
AKA the Bullshit Bingo!
For anyone interested, here is a relevant documentary about how Earth is experiencing a sixth mass extinction event because of our actions like you mentioned.
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It kills me how often I see people claim that it is the corporations that are driving climate change and that individuals can do nothing when going plant based would make a huge difference.
That’s a dairy cow; you can eat that one without killing it.
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Milked it so hard a leg was sucked inside!
Extra protein
Okay that caught me off guard and made me fucking laugh.
“Haha killing animals when we don’t need to is so fucking funny” 🥴
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Skip to the 45 second for the relevant bit.
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“Haha vegans taste funny but it helps if you add garlic powder and msg”
That’s relevant
Fitting slogan i heard at fridays climate strike:
“For the climate, change your diet! Eat! - The! - Rich!”
Now tell the not romanticized portion, where people get to know the average cow is not friendly nor playful towards humans.
Cool, that means we can put them in a cage and eat their children vrfore we eat them. Thanks man.
You missed the “/s” there.
Nah nah, the children are a delicasy. No need for /s
There is so much wrong in those words I can’t decide from which to approach it.
But then again: you do you.
I don’t see how that is relevant.
Now look at what humans do to cows, or even to other humans. We commit atrocities at a scale that no other species has ever achieved. According to your logic, humans deserve to be treated even worse than cows.
If I wasn’t clear, I’m claiming for the not so pretty side of the story to be told; people tend to romanticize everything, especially when it comes to animals.
I am not in favour, to any degree, to animals being mistreated and/or abused to any degree, regardless if those same animals are a food source.
Raising animals for food is not incompatible with caring and making all humanly possible efforts to assure the animals live a good life.
Raising animals for food is not incompatible with caring and making all humanly possible efforts to assure the animals live a good life.
People won’t ever stop buying from factory farms as long as it’s socially acceptable, or cheaper options with a close enough taste become available.
“Nearly 99 percent of farmed animals in the US are factory farmed. There are around 250,000 farms in the US. Every day, 23 million land animals are killed on these farms – around 266 every second”
https://animalequality.org/blog/2022/10/14/factory-farming-facts/
I don’t know a single meat eater that doesn’t eat factory farmed meat, including my former self. Do you really believe that people will suddenly start asking about living conditions in restaurants and supermarkets, pay a higher price, and boycot all factory farmed animal products? Speaking of romantizing. This seems like a complete fantasy to me. The vast majority will always buy the cheapest options they can find, no questions asked.
Defending the notion that systematic exploitation is fine, as long as you stab them “humanely” in the throat, provides the ideological basis for treating animals as products, reducing the cost by treating them as worst as possible. Like most people do right now.
As I see it, the only realistic way to end factory farming is if either plant-based meat alternatives or lab-grown meat are produced on a large scale to become price competitive. Which seems to be where things are going for many meat categories, although customer acceptance still has a long way to go.
Are you in the USA?
Whether we treat animals fairly shouldn’t depend on whether they’re friendly or playful towards humans.
Still, every cow looks curious and investigative. And even if they’re skittish, they’re still much more trusting towards humans than we deserve. If the cow understood what was really happening, it would be horrified of the monsters that humans are towards cows.
Now please stop blaming yourself and your entire species for existing.
Are we supposed to lay on the ground and die because we require animal products to live?
Let’s stop being stupid or coy and assume we either eat meat and animal products and are willing to pay the moral and material price for it or want to whitewash our conscience by making a life of blaming others for just being alive.
Weird that we “need” animal products to live, I must be dead because I haven’t eaten animal products in years.
Animal products are all across our civilization, regardless you use it personally or not.
Horseshoe crab blood is used to perform specialized tests and analizys. Many forms of gelatin extracted from animal tissues is used to inoculate cultures. Ever heard of lab mice and their importance for scientific research and development, especially when it comes to biomedical and pharmaceuticals? Are you aware that pigs provided human compatible insulin for decades before the synthetic formula was developed? You know replacement heart valves can be harvested from animals? Horses aid in producing antivenoms.
These are very niche yet very important roles animals play to support our entire civilization.
So enjoy your dietary option and allow others to do the same.
Yes I totally agree, we can be humane to animals and still eat them
Unsure if I fully agree. On one side, yeah cows are exploited. But they get a safe life, with medicine and treatment for illness and physical issues (hooves). Access to food without concern of predators, safe place to sleep and give birth.
Cows are one of the most successful animals in the world because they’re a resource for humans. They are not allowed to go extinct.
I’d say humans are by far the best thing that happened to any domesticated animal.
this is the exact same argument made to keep slaves.
A safe life of being murdered after being caged (either literally or with fences) for 25% of their natural lifespan. That makes sense. Let’s blindly ignore all the abuse they typically go through during that short life because wE nEeD mEaT or some dumb shit.
IME cows were big, dumb and not at all interested in people. Pigs on the other hand have very clear personalities.
Every and any animal has a personality; you just need more time to discover it on some species than others.
Cows can be very tame, if from a milk breed, and brutal pointy ended stomping and biting machines if from beef breeds.
Pigs are not tame, at all. I’ve raised potbelly pigs and they could absolute sweets or complete assholes capable of biting or headbutt you without warning. It’s the only farm animal that can revert to feral state.
And chickens know they were once dinossaurs. Get them in sufficient numbers and they become dangerous. Ever seen a fox afraid inside a chickencoop? I have; at a 100:1 ratio, the poor fox was hoping for a fine meal but was instead made a meal.
I have more experience with pigs than anything else so I’ll take your word for it.
Any horror stories?
No because they were not slaughtered on site but you could tell they all knew when someone wasn’t coming back. It made it hard to eat pork realizing that part.
Pigs can have a sense of numbers, like any herd animal. I get your point. But there are breeds and breeds.
To my very limited personal knowledge, landrace breeds tend to be more like that, especially breeds selected to be grazed and kept outside, which made sense as it would be desirable to have a closely knit group, where individuals would look out for each other. And this gave rise to breeds that can be extremely dangerous to other animals, including humans.
Talking with a few pig herders that live around the area I live, Inwas told more “modern” pig breeds tend to be less group and motherly care driven, to the point of sows mauling piglets out of food drive.
These were kept outside except in rain or during the height of winter so that might be a factor.
I would feel a lot better about it if we treated cattle with existential respect while they gather for our consumption.
But capitalism does not do that to humans so hoping for mad cow respect in the US is about largely remembering about the fatal neurodegenerative disease of cattle.
Just go buy your meat directly from a farmer that only raises a few each year and that lets the cows roam free, it’s not impossible to buy meat that’s much more ethical, you just have to accept the price that comes with it.
You can just stop eating meat though. Like what’s the point of continuing?
It tastes good and I don’t eat it everyday and I try to eat quality meat as much as possible, give me a break.
Oh yeah you totally need a break, must be hard to only eat meat sometimes and continue supporting animal abuse. The animals totally don’t need a break more than you.
The device you typed this on surely do not contain any precious metal obtained through human abuse.
One form of harm does not excuse the other. We all have to make some effort on multiple fronts if we want the future to be brighter. Besides, it’s easier to survive as a vegetarian than without technology in modern society.
Thing is I could make efforts on all fronts except for eating meat every now and then and you guys would still be mad even if I made more effort then you everywhere else.
Brighter according to whom? By what standard? Is this a dietary restriction you would enforce on other through violence, or by some other authoritarian means?
irrelevant
How bout a nice big cup of fuck off?
Ha! Good one 🥴
Taste
While this is subjective I’ve found much more variety of flavor after going vegan
I’m not saying it has variety but that the taste of it is great
Joy
Meat eating is tightly connected to manliness. Also ideas of freedom. People think doing away with meat would mean more austerity and an attack on their individuality. You could sit someone down, join the dots for them linking meat to environmental catastrophe that affects them and they will still laugh it off with a vapid joke like in the meme.
I don’t even know what to say. I’m a man and never did I link eating a steak to my masculinity. I know it’s a thing but it just seems so primitive/basic.
*in your culture
Man, my girlfriend wants to eat meat more often than I do, what does that mean? 🤔
Meat eating is tightly connected to manliness.
That’s an interesting proposition. You have a source for that, or a theory of your own? Please share.
https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/14/3/1290
The idea isn’t new or obscure but there is an academic source. Have you never heard of alt-right idiots complaining about soy boys? You know they are referring to men who have been emasculated because of aversion to meat and consumption of estrogen-like soy products?
I’ve heard about that, but I feel a majority of meat eaters are quite tolerant with veganism and don’t see it a a threat to their masculinity. And I think I can say this threat isn’t even relevant in the case of women meat eaters. About the study you linked: it doesn’t really try to take an objective standpoint on the matter since its entire premise is the necessity to convince meat eaters to change their eating habits. Also is says itself (end of section 5) that the link between eating meat and masculinity wasn’t specifically targeted by the study. The authors do mention though that the link between masculinity and meat eating can be attributed to perceptions created by industry marketing. But in this article (as well as in my own personal experience) this link seems at best anecdotal.
Yeah but what about my cat? What about animals in the wild? How can we stop them from eating meat?
Oh yeah I was totally suggesting animals should all go vegan too /s
It was an honest question, and you didn’t answer it.
Oh yeah I was totally suggesting animals should all go vegan too /s
That was my answer. My snarky reply was intended to demonstrate how stupid it was for you to suggest that considering I never brought up that issue.
And that price is WORTH IT
And what does this existential respect look like?
Having a bit more joy in life and living a day longer in a cage which is one squaremeter larger until they get slaughtered?
Still no freedom and an unnaturally early end of life.
Recipes ain’t the problem. It’s butchering. How do I get the steak out
Just cut away all the bits that aren’t steak.
And then draw the rest of the fucking owl.
The Michaelangelo approach
Knives help.
Oh boy, another dogshit kill animals hehe meme. Very funny maymay community. Psuedoprogressive animal abusers the lot of ya. There is not enough resources on Earth to quench your never ending demand for bodies. Just have ten trillion kids who all definitely have the opportunity to eat just as many animals as you do! Primitive zero brain cell fools. I’d throw you all out of Athens.
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It’s not hard to just stop eating animals but these people will come up with any excuse to keep supporting totally unnecessary meat consumption. It’s disgusting and abhorrent.
OP’s post itself is bait. Funny haha gif does not address the victims at all.
How does beef taste anyway? I have resolved to never eat it because of my religious upbringing, although I am an atheist now. How does it taste?
The closest analogy that I have found is Ostrich, though that tastes of beef and liver. Venison, aka deer, is much like beef, but with almost no fat, so you have to mix it with a fatty meat to use it as beef, even then there’s a richer “beefyness” to the end result.
I wish I had tried an antelope steak, when I had the ability to do so, I suspect that would be closer to beef in taste and fat content upon further research.
Source: over 20 years as a chef.
Why don’t we have a cooking community here?
I have eaten deer, It was ok! I prefer chicken tbh, but yeah to each our own. Thank you for this! I can trust your because of the sauce lol
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Was vegetarian for nearly 15 years. Worked a Friday day shift at the bar, hungover af. I think I served a dozen Prime Rib Dips and ended up asking the kitchen to save one for me for later … and that was the end of my vegetarian days. It 100% cured my hangover!
I aint got any way of describing it, good I guess. Its my prefered meat of choice if that gives you any idea. Also what relgion were you raised in? Im gonna guess Hindu.
Im gonna guess Hindu
yes, I was raised Hindu
Excellent
It’s overrated in my opinion. It’s tasty but not mind blowing in any way like the internet claims. I’ve had better tasting fried chicken to be honest.
It’s the best meat imo. Way better than pork and sheep
If you were born after 1985 and are American your views on pork’s flavor aren’t exactly spot on. We moved to leaner breeds in the 1980s and as a result our pork has a lot less flavor than it used to. There’s a richness to heritage breeds like the ones Neiman Ranch sells that have that flavor still. Other nations I do not believe made this shift.
I’m from austria and if this were the case here, boomers and milenials would constantly nag about it.
Infact complaining is part of austrian culture (it’s called “sudern”, this word is only used in austria and bavaria)
DELICIOUS LIKE NOTHING ELSE
go away temptation. gooo…
Just kidding, if I feel like I am missing something, I might give it a go, But, I doubt if I will
Thing is, your opinion on it will be dependent upon how it is prepared and by whom. When I have beef in dishes like stir fry or brigiole or even in a roast beef sandwich, it’s not particularly impressive and is usually second fiddle to the vegetables, pasta or bread. However, a quality beef burger or steak made medium-rare and seasoned properly is just amazing. The other thing though is that if you have never had it, it just might make you sick or at the very least plagued woth indigestion
I cannot describe the taste.
Eat some well barbequed beef and a wave of regret will wash over you, and you will cry for having denied it to yourself for all these years.
Medium rare beef steaks are hyped up, but it frankly is actually an acquired taste. I’ve eaten hot dogs I liked better.
This mfing hot dog comment
Sounds to me like you dont like beef. And yeah, that mf’in hot dog comment
Beef is best when slow cooked for a long time.
Also, both bratwurst and bacon wrapped cheese filled hot dogs are understated compared to steak.
Carnism is one hell of a drug. Hope you can escape it soon OP. Good luck.
Same for all the others here still trapped in the beliefs of carnism.
“Carnism” that’s the difference between vegans and non-vegans.
Only vegans view their diet as a lifestyle and shit on everyone else who isn’t vegan. We’re not “carnists” we don’t give a fuck really except that we hate vegans. Why? Because you lot are the pushiest, most openly judgemental, arrogant pieces of shit to walk the earth.
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I bet if you stopped murdering animals the mean judgmental vegans wouldn’t hurt your poor precious feelings. Honestly? You deserve it if you continue contributing to animal abuse.
Best PF album.
Fight me.It’s actually the family version of it. Can’t show the cow butt, think on the children!
I have to eat meat for dietary reasons, but I don’t enjoy it. I do wish I could be vegetarian or vegan.
What are the dietary reasons?
It tastes too good
Possibly iron. There’s heme and non-heme forms of iron and some people are just physically incapable of using non-heme (plant based) iron. It’s uncommon but definitely a thing.
If for some reason he medically required heme-iron, I’d rather publicly subsidize the price difference for them to eat impossible meat as that does contain heme-iron. No more requirement to rely on animal products for that. As far as I’m aware though, it’s just a concern of absorption rate. If the absorption rate is the concern they should just focus on taking a higher dosage supplement - which would not require heme-iron.
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Dogs aren’t obligate carnivores, they’re omnivores.
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No no fam, they’re omnivorous. They evolved to eat a starch-rich diet because they were domesticated by us for 15,000 years. They can eat other veggies besides grass – carrots are actually good for them.
Source: I live in a house with a dog :P
I don’t know what the real answer is here but I imagine the assumption wasn’t that dogs can survive on grass, c’mon.
Growing children will literally starve to death without protein
Everyone will die without proteins. And you can get all of the required protein from plants and plant based foods. This is not only the case for adults and children but also for pregnant people.
don’t kid yourselves; if we don’t eat that cow, another omnivore or a carnivore will
You know that we breed a crazy amount of animals into existence for the sole purpose of killing and consuming them, don’t you? And you know that a lot of times we even throw away a lot of what’s edible from the animal? No other species on earth does this.
Furthermore, even in the wild predatory carni- or omnivores usually don’t kill a whole population of animals. They kill some, yes for the purpose of survival. But by far not all. And even if that happens, those predators will starve and die until more prey is available again. That’s how predators and prey are balancing. Meanwhile we kill basically every animal we breed for food and we wouldn’t even need them for our survival. There is no such balance. To the contrary. It is one of the major factors of environmental destruction and pollution.
while dogs, cats and ferrets are obligate carnivores and at least need meat-derived pet kibble in their diet to live
First of all that might be a reason not to get a pet. Secondly, dogs, cats and ferrets can be fed on a plant-based diet. It might not be as easy and should definetly happen with support of a veterinarian (as most people won’t know for sure what they are doing), but it is proven to be possible without inflicting harm on the animals.
Wow you really know nothing do you?
Sweet child, you really thought you were eating wild cows? What you eat is produced for you, including animals. The cow is literally born from human activity to die and for you to eat
And welcome to the real world where animal muscles is not the the only protein source, and definitely not the food that contains the most protein
Kamehameha would like a word with you
This one DEFINETLY deserves to be eaten 🍴🥩
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Whats the context for this 3d generated xeno abomination that wants to steal my bodily fluids?
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If anyone has any good rib recipes, it would be greatly appreciated
Make some shallow cuts on the ribs, so the salt penetrates better on them. Add a generous amount of [important!]coarse[/important] salt, making sure that some crystals go inside the cuts. Wait half hour or so.
Light a charcoal fire, and barbecue the ribs for a hour with the bony side down. [important!]Low fire.[/important] The bones should start detaching themselves from the meat, then you know that it’s time to flip it; cook it with the fattier side down for a few more hours.
Use your judgment if you need to flip it again or not. Some people only flip it once, some do it multiple times. This should take 4~6h so wake up early if you want it to be ready for lunch.
In the pressure cooker:
- a bit of veg oil
- an onion, peeled, sliced
- 1kg ribs, cut into large chunks
- salt and pepper to taste
Put the veg oil, onion, ribs, salt and pepper in the pressure cooker, in this order. No need for water (the onions release quite a bit of water). Close it, let it cook on pressure for 40min.
I need to buy a pressure cooker at some point.
It’s a godsend for a lot of things, from Bolognese sauce to “fuck I’m in a hurry perhaps I can adapt this recipe to the pressure cooker”. And some things get actually better in the pressure cooker, not just faster; homemade veg stock is a good example.
Gonna pressure cook me some homemade vegan stockings.
stockings
Aiming for a fake cheese flavour, I see.
(It’s actually great for vegan stock too, you can squeeze a bit more flavour out of the veg bits and shroom stems. Just make sure to not add cruciferous vegs to the pressure cooker - because they will overcook and they will make your stock taste like sulphur.)
I love cows. Ciws are awesome. They’re cute, they’re cool, and I will announce them out loud every time I drive by them, even if there’s nobody else in the car to hear it. And they are DELICIOUS
Well good for you. Harr harr harr, what a knee slapper.
Continue to ignore the cognitive dissonance of the murder of a sentient being that is “cute” and “cool” so you can pleasure yourself.
Hopefully people will see this for what it is one day. It’s a crime. Not long ago men joked to themselves about how beautiful and nice women were before they raped them. Slaves weren’t considered human at one point.
I’m not gonna get too high on my horse, because I used to eat meat, but at least had the dignity to not proudly proclaim my stupid choice to assuage the nagging doubt underneath.
Is it murder when you are biologically designed for hunting and eating meat? Unlike the other situations you mentioned I can point to a ludicrous amount of evidence that your body is made to sometimes eat animal proteins.
Whether we should regularly consume animal products or whether our methods of farming animals is sustainable us a different issue, and IMO is the most compelling argument as it is the only thing as an individual you can do to really combat climate change.
Unlike the other situations you mentioned I can point to a ludicrous amount of evidence that your body is made to sometimes eat animal proteins.
The experts would disagree.
It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes.
Your source isn’t addressing my claim on any level at all which is biological/anthropological in nature not dietary. You have teeth designed for tearing flesh. You have enzymes to break down said flesh. You are designed to hunt some animals and NOTHING in your source addresses it nor could your source do so with any credibility.
So your appeal to authority is completely out of place here.
People live completely healthy without meat, so how is this relevant? Even if we were biologically adapted to hunting, that doesn’t make it ethical. Ducks are designed to rape, surely that doesn’t make rape ethical. Or does it in your view?
Over 90% of the human diet has always been plant-based until very recently.
You were also biologically “designed” (you religious btw?) to murder and rape.
And you were certainly not biologically “designed” to go down to the grocery store to buy a huge slab of red flesh in a plastic container to go along with your doritos.
Yes most of your diet should be plants because you should have more teeth for eating plants than meat (your dental care is bad if this is not true).
You’ll note that I talk about eating a lot less meat if you choose to eat meat.
You aren’t designed to rape. Consent as a concept comes about millions of years after the design parts of homo sapiens manifests itself. Don’t be ignorantly hyperbolic.
Yes, you are right and thousands of years of humanity’s culture is wrong. You are certainly not too high on your horse, which you shouldn’t have saddled and enslaved in the first place. Thank you, Citizen, for your erudite insight and wisdom!
Appeal to thousands of years of history… which is filled with murder, rape, war, enslavement, and endless other crimes. We are capable of evolving as a species.
Waaa waaa waaaa
We’re omnivores. Get the fuck over it.
Oh look, it’s you, the same asshole that also advocates for violence and censorship of people you disagree with.
No, I advocate for violence and censorahip of known terrorist and genocidal ideologies. You, however, want to embrace being a victim and a doormat.
