Sorry (🍁) we did this without making a post, but after receiving several complaints we defederated from hexbear.net yesterday.

Here’s a few quick examples of poor conduct by hexbear users:

They warned their users to behave themselves, but that didn’t work: https://hexbear.net/post/280770?scrollToComments=false

Please read and respect the rules of the community instance in which you are posting/commenting. Please try to keep the dirtbag lib-dunking to hexbear itself. Do not follow the Chapo Rules of Posting, instead try to engage utilizing informed rhetoric with sources to dismantle western propaganda. Posting the western atrocity propaganda and pig poop balls is hilarious but will pretty quickly get you banned and if enough of us do it defederated. Realize that you are a representative of the hexbear instance when you post on other instances.

  • lazylion_ca@lemmy.caEnglish
    1106·
    2 years ago

    I browsed a bit there. All I saw was trolls planning to troll. They won’t be missed.

    Federation is working.

      • MapleEngineer@lemmy.caEnglish
        101·
        2 years ago

        I hope the admins on those raided instances are more effective than the admins on hexbear were.

      • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.caEnglish
        61·
        2 years ago

        Oh, they already are raiding and brigading. Take a look at any post remotely mentioning China, Russia or Ukraine on lemmy.ml or any other instance still federated with them. 90% of the comments will be Hexbear users trolling, harassing people or spreading disinformation, shutting out any real discussion.

  • Rob Bos@lemmy.caEnglish
    622·
    2 years ago

    I noticed a few of them posting Russian propaganda the other day. Nothing of value was lost.

    • Murvel@lemm.eeEnglish
      403·
      2 years ago

      They absolutely do. They are freaks of nature.

      Essentially communists who support the war crimes committed in Ukriane and the idea of Russian imperialism since it somehow in their twisted little minds equates to a Soviet Union born again.

      Wrap your head around that.

      • astral_avocado@programming.devEnglish
        172·
        2 years ago

        I still just don’t understand why they defend Russia or China, I don’t think there’s a single state mechanism you can point to that’s truly functionally communistic.

        • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.caEnglish
          71·
          2 years ago

          They get it into their heads that they’re smarter than everyone else because they have views that aren’t popular, and shut out any evidence that their views might just be wrong and actively harmful.

    • Rentlar@lemmy.caEnglish
      151·
      2 years ago

      Yeah we gave them a chance, but I don’t think many of their users were ready for the Lemmy experience so they kind of wandered into All expecting to behave the same as on their “CTH” community, with some of them clearly out to “troll normies/libs”.

  • 'M' as in 'MANCY'@lemmy.caEnglish
    402·
    2 years ago

    Good work! Thank you. Hexbear users are trolls. They’re not in it for discussion in good faith. I’ve blocked a few offenders here and there but honestly I think the culture there is so toxic that we’re better off not being federated with them.

    • randint@lemm.eeEnglish
      222·
      2 years ago

      100% agree that they are trolls. They flood any China news posts (that’s not on lemmy.world) with a truckload of pro-China comments, taking advantage of the fact that a sizeable portion of Lemmy users won’t be able to see and downvote them. Whenever someone replies to them with well-thought-out arguments supporting “the western authoritarians,” half of them replies with huge and ugly emojis, while the other half parrots more Chinese propaganda (that actually sound well-written if you disregard the fact that China is an oppressive regime).

      • BlemboTheThird@lemmy.caEnglish
        7·
        2 years ago

        I just moved instances because my old favorite has so far refused to defederate. I’m willing to deal with the idiot takes, the trolling, the nonsense sources that are almost always youtube videos, and their impressive ability to both support and denounce authoritarianism in the same breath. It’s important for me to look at propaganda from multiple perspectives so that I can try to think through it and understand where other people are coming from. But 99% of the time they don’t even express real opinions; they just flood posts they don’t like with obnoxious images. Just for that, I’d take Lemmygrad over Hexbear any day of the week

  • maaj@lemmy.caEnglish
    407·
    2 years ago

    Honestly, they helped me figure out that I’m leftist and not liberal, but if there’s that much trolling coming from them, and it bothers the majority of y’all, then I totally get defederating them. I do not agree with their views on Russia anyway.

    Edit: downvoting isn’t going to change the fact that I’m not a fan of capitalism. That’s all I mean by “I’m leftist, and not liberal” it’s the simpleist distinction between the two.

    Double edit: thank you to the folks who responded, for giving me additional perspective on the leftist diaspora(?) The “fanning out” about Russia and CCP was quite off putting and I couldn’t mentally reconcile it.

    • astral_avocado@programming.devEnglish
      316·
      2 years ago

      No calls for violence seems like a simple rule. And not every landlord is greedy mcshitstain with 50 properties, many of them are a single family with their starter home rented out, or a couple renting out their extra room.

      • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1022·
        2 years ago

        Communists don’t care for that distinction, they believe all landlords (even non-exploitative ones like you mentioned) are inherrently exploitative and therefore deserving of death. Yes, this applies to you even if you just rent out a room, but don’t worry, money won’t exist and everything will be free!

    • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
      308·
      2 years ago

      Calling for execution of anyone seems a bit extreme to me.

        • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caEnglish
          71·
          2 years ago

          Taxing, regulation, confiscation are all places we could start from that won’t create the problem of having to erase parts of our history so we can live with it.

    • BloodForTheBloodGod@lemmy.caEnglish
      131·
      2 years ago

      some landlords might have to go but there are degrees. Speculating in housing is unethical, but a small land leech isn’t some kulag who needs to be ended.

      Also, property managers, really? They are just wage workers.

      • Firemyth@lemm.eeEnglish
        35·
        2 years ago

        That you call them small land leeches really speaks for itself

    • TotallyHuman@lemmy.caEnglish
      71·
      2 years ago

      Nothing’s wrong with hating landlords. I hate landlords. Lots of people hate landlords. There’s a difference between calling for economic reform and calling for mass executions.

  • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    242·
    2 years ago

    Calling for exections of landlords

    Link doesn’t work for me, but without any context: kind of hilarious.

  • Mereo@lemmy.caEnglish
    235·
    2 years ago

    In my opinion, good choice. It had to be done. Won’t be missed.

  • Troy@lemmy.caEnglish
    171·
    2 years ago

    I’ve mixed feelings about this. But I support the admins, generally, and will assume they are acting in good faith.

    This is sort of like an email provider getting their domain blacklisted. Yes, it hurts some legitimate users, but they are a source of spam and crap and the nuclear option is legitimate.

    • some_guy@kbin.social
      410·
      2 years ago

      You are welcome to hop on over to any instance that isn’t defederated or even hexbear itself!

      If you have mixed feelings about removing these pieces of trash, you’re either a piece of trash too or a useful idiot.

  • Jordan Lund@lemmy.oneEnglish
    111·
    2 years ago

    I said this in the last thread announcing defederation from them…

    Freedom of speech doesn’t mean an obligation to listen.

    Good for you! I saw some of their posts pop up in my feed and had to block them too. Just too much edgelord stupidity.

    • 👁️👄👁️@lemm.eeEnglish
      41·
      2 years ago

      Well their instance is definitely not the ones to cry “free speech”, they’re not right wingers. They just think it’s funny lol.

  • Wahots@pawb.socialEnglish
    101·
    2 years ago

    I saw some reallllly really sketchy takes from some @hexbear accounts on the fediverse, but my instance had already defederated from them without much fanfare, so I didn’t know exactly what their deal was (our admin has a really reasonable head on his shoulders.)

    This clears up a lot.

  • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.caEnglish
    91·
    2 years ago

    You made the right decision. Hexbear users aren’t here to discuss anything in good faith, they’re here to brigade and harass. That’s all I’ve seen from them ever since they federated.

    • IronKrill@lemmy.caEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      I checked out the instance and at least half the comments on federation posts were just plotting how to annoy other communities, not splitting their “force” too wide, and taking bets on how long until they’re defederated. Not worth our time.