I may be the only one here who doesn’t care. Long as it’s understandable, it’s good enough.
I found a dodecahedral d4 once and I have been looking for more of those ever since
https://www.diceemporium.com/product/12-sided-1-4-spotted-28mm/
Something like this?
https://www.thediceshoponline.com/dodecadice-triple-d4-layer-rainbow-12-sided-spot-d4-dice
Or this?
https://eu.nobleknight.com/P/2147622485/20mm-d4-12-Sided-Metal-Dice-w-Black
Or this if you want it in metal with numbers?
Purple (number up) team for sure. The only alternative I’ll accept is the ones that look like crystals, but I mean c’mon they’re just so cool they get a pass, numbers up pyramid is clearly the correct choice.
Truncated D8 / 2 for the win!
Or two coins.
Two coins isn’t the same thing mathematically.
If heads = 1 and tails = 2 then:
1+1=2
1+2=3
2+1=3
2+2=4
Average is 3, and the lowest is 2.D4: 1
2
3
4
Average is 2.5, and the lowest result is 1.d8/2 (rounded up):
1/2=1
2/2=1
3/2=2
4/2=2
5/2=3
6/2=3
7/2=4
8/2=4
Average is 2.5, and the lowest result is 1.You make sure that the two coins are distinct from each other and decide ahead of time which on represents 0 and 1 and which one represents 0 and 2. Flip them both, add the values, then add 1 to the result.
That lines up mathematically.
(best d4 shape is dodecahedron with 1-4 repeated 3 times, fight me)
Make it a rhombic dodecahedron for extra style points.
But then you can’t tell at a glance what kind of die it is.
Who needs glances when you have organization? There’s also versions that use pips or roman numerals or other symbols to make them visually distinct. You could also get them in a different color. Inferior shapes should never be accepted for convenience.
These fools! It is so obvious which way is correct
Determining the correct d4 layout is left as an exercise for the reader.
Both sides know the right way, one side is just trolling
Yeah, the blue side is way of the mark
When you roll a d6, and the face looking upwards shows a 1, have you rolled a 6, no? Then why change the approach for the d4?
Number rolled goes up!
this implies d4s can be rolled and not tossed. the number goes on the bottom of a d4 to demonstrate that it is an affront to all that it is good. what you value it breaks because it finds it funny
You nearly convinced me, but I can’t get over how difficult it is to read when hovering above it, so even though it may be what the rotten things deserve, I shouldn’t bear the punishment for the crime of their existence.
It doesn’t have a face facing upwards for one… Or it has 3
Numbers on top is the way, fight me
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Daldøs_dice.jpg/500px-Daldøs_dice.jpg
What is the sentiment one dice like these?
Hmmmmmm…I’ll allow it
Fill the holes with a resin of the same density as the bulk material to balance it and I’d have no issues against it.
Hell yeah, brother/sister/sibling!
I still fuck with this, the numbers are still on top!
the heck? Where does one get these dice?
I got mine from Math Art Fun/The Dice Lab. I also got their Orbiform d4, which rolls nicely and looks and feels great.
…not from a Jedi…
[dramatic head turn]
I went a-lookin’ and i kinda wish i didn’t now… I am about to drop some coin on some dice and i don’t even need them!! Well, i need them but i don’t need them lol
There are some really really cool looking dice there!!!
Yay, Zocchi dice!
Zocchi was an underappreciated legend
AFAIK Zocchi’s d4 do not have numbering on the truncated part of the pyramid. I got mine from Math Art Fun/The Dice Lab. I also got their Orbiform d4, which rolls nicely and looks and feels great.
The number is also on top for every other die, why would you change it, unless you’re an evil heretic bound on destroying everything we hold dear.
D4s are dumb. Just use a D8/2.
But do you do d8 mod 4 or ceiling(d8/2)?
D8 mod 4
Can’t roll a 0 on a D4.
I think you’d need:
(D8 mod 4) + 1 ?
But that gets confusing. I think /2 and round up is easier?
You’re right. Off-by-1 error. Would be a Z4 then.
Never! I swear by d8%4.
Take two different coins: designate one as worth 1, the other, worth 2. Flip both and total the value of the coins showing heads; 0=4.
It’s percentile dice in binary.
Look! I have a… [rummages in wallet] d512 !
Number at the top is undeniably superior, it’s functionally more well designed. Not only does it make the die more pleasing to look at, but the number isn’t fighting for space with the other two digits, the other numbers are also angled downwards rather than upwards, further indicating that the number at the top is what you rolled.
Ok but one is clearly superior.
It’s this one.
I audibly gasped. You should really consider an nsfl tag.
You could not be more right.
Evil DMs keep two color-identical D4s, one with numbers up and an evil one with numbers down, and they’re the only D4s allowed on the table. When directed to roll a 1D4, it’s drawn blind and rolled. The hopeful see what they want before their faces give way to crestfall.
I don’t understand the difference–
The guys on the top have their d4s the correct way, and the people on the bottom are heathens that deserve death
The far army has the number on the vertices (4), the close army has the number on the base (3).
The bottom number while more difficult to grasp initially makes for a much easier more consistent readings, and I’ll kill anyone who disagrees.
A fight to your death it is, then.
The triangular shape naturally draws our eyes to the pinnacle. Bottom-numbered D4 are evil and should be banned.
I’ve never looked at a number-on-top d4 and thought “ouchy if only there was an easier way”. Not once. Whether or not I agree with you, the fact that there is a noticeable difference to you, which crosses a particular threshold, is wild.
Thems fighting words. lol I don’t actually have that strong of an opinion. just a slight preference for being wrong apparently.
I recently received a d4 as a gift that was essentially a d6 but with two rounded faces so it can only land on the four sides. It’s objectively the better experience but feels like treason.
I hope you also roll a pencil as a d6.
Shit in a pinch that’s not a bad idea.
