Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.

Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion

Edit2: IP= intellectal property

Edit3: sort by controversal

  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I thought of a few stupid things, but everyone talking about kids made me think of this one.

    I am strongly against Trickle down suffering.

    “I put up with this terrible thing when I was your age, and even though we could stop it from happening to anyone, it’s important that we make YOU suffer through it too.”

    Hazing, bullying, unfair labor laws, predatory banking and more. It’s really just the “socially acceptable” cycle of abuse.

    • phanto@lemmy.ca
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      I agree, and I take it this far: “I worked hard and paid for my house, why should some lazy loafer get housing for free? I paid 24,000$ in tuition, why should kids get free college?” I think that, at some point, one guy has to be the first guy to benefit from progress, and all the people who didn’t benefit just have to suck it up. I would 100% pay a much higher tax rate if it meant that homelessness was gone, hunger was gone, kids got free education… I’m Canadian, so I don’t need to say this about health care. Yeah, I paid an awful lot of mortgage, but if someone else gets a free house? Good!

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      Strongly agree. Someone has to break the cycle of abuse, it’s wrong to contribute to the cycle so that it can continue harming others in the future.

      Edit, one example that comes to mind is the extremely long shifts in the medical field in America. One guy who was really good at being a doctor happened to be someone who voluntarily took on very long hours. Now there is this persistent mindset that every medical worker must accept long hours and double shifts without notice and without complaints.

      There are a few cases where it benefits the patient to avoid handing off the case to another doctor, but generally it just limits the pool of people who are willing to go into the medical field, and limits the career length and lifespan of the people who do go for it.

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      2 years ago

      I sort of disagree. Some pain and suffering is what helps some people become better versions of themselves. Doesn’t work for everyone though, so it shouldn’t be the default experience, but rather a last resort.

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          Nah mate, it’s the “rich ppl need to experience poverty in order to empathize” argument.

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        I agree with OP, and I think you may as well but are stating it differently. Hardships and difficulty so indeed provide the opportunities to better oneself, but that shouldn’t come from contrived abuse like bullying or hazing. Those are instances of someone using their previous difficulty as an excuse to make it harder for someone else which I don’t believe is morally correct.

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          Maybe, maybe not. My thought for the comment was “tried to help, didn’t work, off you go and experience as is”.

          Because not everyone learns the same way, so we can’t apply a fix-all universal method. Some kids, adults even, don’t get it until they experience it themselves.

          What that “it” is changes from person to person and every time we think “why don’t they just understand”, maybe it’s that they can’t understand and need a different way of learning “it”. Which sometimes is painful.

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        Yes, facing adversity does build resilience. However, creating adversity for another just because YOU had to face it is wrong. I had a professor who called our career a “brotherhood of suffering” and would purposely create artificial stumbling blocks and make things more difficult because he had the same done to him. It’s perpetrating a cycle of abuse. I’ve now gotten to the point where I’ve taught in university and in the hospital and I try to break that cycle. It’s still a very difficult path, the content and pace are still taxing. Many still don’t make it to graduation, why make it harder then it needs to be?

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    2 years ago

    Being “proud” of your acheivements is fine.

    Being “proud” of your country or your state or your football team that you’re not a member of,or your ethnicity is douchebaggery.

    • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works
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      2 years ago

      My mam has a union jack she flies outside her house. I always say “do you forget what country you live in?” To her all the time about it

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    2 years ago

    Absolute free speech is overrated. You shouldn’t be able to just lie out your ass and call it news.

    The fact that the only people who had any claim against Fox for telling the Big Lie was the fucking voting machine company over lost profits tells you everything you need to know about our country

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    If you’re a juror and you vote guilty, knowing that the person you’re voting guilty for will be executed, if they are later found not guilty, your head should be next on the chopping block.

    I am fundamentally against the death penalty. It is not a power the government should ever have.

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        2 years ago

        also they just live longer.

        outdoor cats average…what…5 years? Indoor cats can get to 20. a lucky few even more.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      That cats should remain indoors.

      In my experience, humans do tend to prefer this policy but cats do not. Consequently, outdoor cats tend to be cats that are particularly good at getting outside in defiance of their owners’ interests - either by physical escape or social manipulation.

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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        Are the cats wanting to be outside, or are they just wanting to be away from you?

        Cause I’ve never had a cat that wanted to be outside. Sit in a window and watch the world, yes, but as soon as you give them the ability they ran and hid.

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      I have a take on this that I think no one will have fun with:

      In my opinion there is no moral way to keep a cat as a pet.

      Allowing cats to roam as they desire results in the aforementioned ecological damage. The opposite - keeping cats locked in a few thousand feet at best for twenty-odd years of life - is cruel.

      As someone who was raised in the woods with outdoor cats and couldn’t imagine keeping them inside - even though we lost two as I grew up - it’s a circle I just can’t square. So I figure that if and when I get cats, I’ll dodge the question and adopt some older cats who were already raised inside and couldn’t be trusted to go outside safely anyway.

  • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Housing as an investment is wrong.

    The price of basic human needs should not be tied to the rise and fall of the stock market, nor should ones retirement depend on the hyper inflated values of houses. 500K+ for a small house is absolute price gouging bullshit, regardless of location.

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    It’s okay to call stupid people stupid to their face - them, their ideas, whatever it is that they’re doing dumb. In the U.S. we’ve gone too far over on the “tolerate all people and their views” which has allowed fascism and MAGAts to gain far too much power - putting idiots in their place is (or at least would have been) the best way put it back where it belongs.

    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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      I mean, it definitionally is. Even if you use a less charged synonym like “body modification of a major part”.

      The normative/moral take would be that all genital mutilation is bad.

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      The big thing is just not comparing it to female circumcision. Both are fucked up, but female circumcision is done explicitly to destroy sexual function. It’s rare for male circumcision to go so wrong that all sexual function is lost, but that’s the goal of female circumcision.

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    To quote Margaret Thatcher, “a man who doesn’t own a car by the age of 26 can count himself a failure.”

    I heavily disagree with that statement. Everyone has reasons not to drive. From disability, to cities being designed for walking and public transport, to being opposed to the pollution that is caused as a result of it, to not wanting to participate in traffic congestion, to not being able to fucking afford one, to being so bad at driving that you just give up after failing that license test multiple times, or to simple personal preference. Are all these people failures apparently? How does that make sense? Well, I guess the people who give up after failing the license test are, but everyone else??

    • tomenzgg@midwest.social
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      It’s the nature of conservatives to break things into simple concepts and metrics that are easy to comprehend and conceptualize because facing the nuance and complexity of reality requires work and bravery.

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    Understanding disability thought and theory is one of the foundations of marginalization justice but one of the most invisible such that, once you understand certain tenants, it’s impossible not to see the impact of their ideas in everything in daily life.

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    Pacifism.

    The overwhelming majority of people, no matter where they sit in terms of culture, religion, and politics, see total nonviolence as a naive position.

    But it’s among my most deeply held beliefs.