Link without the paywall
Just realized a whole generation of kids will have ai links to the web, so if they look for something theyll get the one sanitized link, think the whole skill of searching and sifting through links will be lost (it was thought in schools when I was a kid)
lol. You’re not wrong that it’ll be way easier to rely on AI to do the sorting for you, but you’re implying Google didn’t sanitize information and only give you results they approve of…
There’s way more to the internet than you can find on search engines.
Most of the people I know now never really acquired this skill, can’t really lose what they didn’t have
I liked the web a lot more when it didn’t have a business model.
YOU KIDS GET THE FUCK OFF MY LAWN!
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The web needs a new web. The internet was never created for privacy and security. People trying to plug the holes isn’t enough.
Can we please just pay a cent or half a cent for each page we vist. Its like 50x what the website would get from our view with ads and its not much. I’m sure it would encourage others to start their own website as well if you could get $1 from 100 page views.
There are so many things like this news article where they want to charge me a few dollars. Bro I cant afford to pay $5 a month for every single platform that would close me 1000s.
That immediately makes the Internet basically free for the rich and only partially accessible for the poor. Maybe you’re OK with that, but business models like that are partly what’s wrong with the world. In fact the Internet already has this problem. This would almost certainly move the boundary between who’s relatively rich and who’s relatively poor in the wrong direction.
Also, hosting providers would immediately crank up the prices so that they get as much of that sweet page-visit money as possible ensuring the site owner doesn’t.
The prices would find a level eventually, but it wouldn’t be anywhere near as low as half a cent. We’d be lucky if it was a dollar.
There’s also the question of what constitutes “a page”. What if only part of the screen refreshes? What if you refresh an existing page because it didn’t load properly, or just because? Is that a new payment?
Data caps and charges would be the “better” way to handle all this, but let anyone tell you who’s on a plan that has those, that they’re awful and the money never goes where it needs to. Good luck getting legislation changed so that some of that money goes to the sites that the data ultimately comes from.
You do that and the prices will just keep going up. See Netflix/streaming as an example. Enough $ is never enough. Line must go up.
Don’t you already pay to use the Internet? Why does anybody have to make record profits every quarter, fuck all ads. The Internet was much better when corporations were not involved.
Idc about corporations but the internet costs and you cant get away from that. Servers and the infrastructure around them has to be paid for. And I’m happy to pay my share when I vist someones website. My issue is that my share is a few cents not a few dollars like a lot of these newpapers try and charge.
I think websites should be paid for by the person or organization that owns them, personally. I don’t want to be subsidizing businesses that I have no role in or control over, or paying for other people to engage in their hobbies.
Can you explain this “I don’t want to be subsidizing businesses that I have no role in or control over, or paying for other people to engage in their hobbies.”
I dont get why you are against giving money to companies you dont control only on the web, you surely do it a ton in everyday life. In regards to the hobby, how do you know its their hobby and even if it was its not your place to decide if they should be paid for their time. If they’re making something thats good enough for you to want to consume it then you should pay them for it.
I pay money to a person or company in order to receive a good or service which is defined and negotiated ahead of time.
Someone I don’t know making a website I didn’t ask for isn’t doing anything for me, and doesn’t have my agreement or consent.
That’s fine as long as they aren’t expecting me to pay them for it. Expecting money for actions taken on someone else’s behalf without their consent is a scam.
Someone I don’t know making a website I didn’t ask for isn’t doing anything for me, and doesn’t have my agreement or consent.
Yes they are, they are hosting a website which you’re visting to presumably consume some of the content or use in some way. They dont need your agreement or consent, you are choosing to vist the website. Just to be clear we arent talking about paying websites you dont vist. We are specifically talking about websites like a blog
I’m talking about random websites that people visit to see what they are, as one does.
Making a blog and thinking that people owe you money to be on the receiving end of your unasked-for opinions/advice is ridiculous. You can talk to people around you and get that for free.
And there’s even less reason to pay a company that you have an existing business relationship with to access their website, since you’re paying them already.
Such bullshit.
“AI is going to fix everything, so we need a new way to make money.”
- AI is nothing but a delusional and unwanted waste of energy.
- The web doesn’t need a business model, period. Money-grubbing billionaires are the only ones who need a business model.
AI as a technology at its core is fine, what is at issue here is the unnecessary scaling up of AI. There were great strides being made in making models as small and efficient as possible before OpenAI fucked up the entire market by becoming a for-profit company. They literally can’t scale the models much further no matter how much data and compute they throw at them nowadays, and the money faucet still hasn’t been turned off to disastrous consequences.
Who pays for your servers and static ip.
Not op, but I pay for my own server, domain and IP (though it is not a static one). And I’ve donated to some of the fediverse platforms that I use, like lemmy.world.
I’m not sure what you are trying to get at?So what’s your public facing site address and we’ll see how we’ll it can hold against the onslaught on the net. You gonna pay to host all the YouTube videos too. Do you host instances for thousands of others to mess with. What SaaS offerings does your site present. If you’re not sure what my point is you’re not informed enough to present a legitimate argument.
web 1.0 was the last good era of the internet
The internet isnt truly dead until Zombo.com no longer exists.
