In an interview on the Israeli Basketball Association’s website, Israeli player Dor Saar said before the game: "It’s known that they are quite anti-semitic and it’s no secret, and maybe that’s why a strong game is expected.

“We have to show that we’re better than them and win. We talk about it among ourselves. We know they don’t love us and we will leave everything on the field always and in this game especially.”

Basketball Ireland’s statement prior to the start of the game read: "Basketball Ireland informed Fiba Europe yesterday that as a direct result of recent comments made by Israeli players and coaching staff - including inflammatory and wholly inaccurate accusations of anti-Semitism, published on official Israeli Federation channels - that our players will not be partaking in traditional pre-match arrangements with our upcoming opponents.

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    It’s known that they are quite anti-semitic

    I love it when isrealis reveal that they can’t differentiate between their nationality and the religion

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      Treating people badly because they happen to be from Israel isn’t political commentary.
      It’s antisemitism, plain and simple.

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        You’re doing it right now too! Antisemitism is hostility to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against Jews not Israelis. The reason why these players did not want to shake hands with the Israeli team is not because they are Jews, but because they are Israeli. Yes they are refusing to shake hands with them because they are from Israel but its not because they are Jewish. It’s because their country (Israel) is comiting genocide. They would not shake hands with any country that does this

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          I bet they’d shake hands with the US team, despite the fact that the US killed 50x more Arab civilians in order to “defend their interests” on the other side of the world.

          Holding Israel to a standard you don’t apply to any other nation on earth IS antisemitism.

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            “Whataboutism” defined.

            I am sure that if the US was killing as many, as fast, people wouldn’t like them either. The truth is, Israel is killing more people than Russia right now and they are not popular either. Is that antisemitism too?

            The UN says that since the start of the war, about 100,000 people in Gaza have been killed, injured or are missing.

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            What the fuck are you talking about? That’s not why they didn’t shake hands. They were accused of antisemitism by an Israeli player, who refused to elaborate, and that’s the reason the Irish team refused to shake hands.

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        It’s anti nationalist, your equation of isreali = semites is actually the bigoted statement.

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    Great display of standing up against false “anti-semitic” claims, when criticizing the politics of Israel.

    The article unfortunately does not state who won…does anyone know? The BBC basketball section obviously doesn’t, at least I couldn’t find it there.

    Edit: The article actually states the result. Israel won 87-57. :/

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        I seem to have skipped multiple times over that information. Thanks and sorry BBC!

        Its even in the TLDR summary…quite embarassing. 😯

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          It’s true then, Jewish team was being discriminated because of their nationality but they won nonetheless because they are doing what God would’ve done too. Right? Right?? /s

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        In addition to what Squizzy said, Israel has conscription, so there’s a very good chance these athletes are / were members of the IDF. So it is entirely possible that they did engage in atrocities against Palestinians.

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        Why did modern Germany engage in restitution after the war if the Nazi regime was finished the people did not support the actions of the government or in more recent cases, were not alive for the actions that part of their taxes go toward making up for?

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Ireland women’s basketball team refused to shake hands with Israel before their EuroBasket 2025 qualifier in Riga.

    Basketball Ireland said the comments were “inflammatory and wholly inaccurate”.Ireland players also lined up for their anthem beside the team’s bench rather than the centre of the court before the game, which Israel won 87-57.

    The match, which was moved to Riga because of the ongoing war in Gaza, went ahead despite Basketball Ireland facing pressure to boycott the fixture.

    Basketball Ireland’s statement prior to the start of the game read: "Basketball Ireland informed Fiba Europe yesterday that as a direct result of recent comments made by Israeli players and coaching staff - including inflammatory and wholly inaccurate accusations of anti-Semitism, published on official Israeli Federation channels - that our players will not be partaking in traditional pre-match arrangements with our upcoming opponents.

    "This includes exchanging of gifts, formal handshakes before or after the game, while our players will line up for the Irish national anthem by our bench rather than centre court.

    "In an interview on the Israeli Basketball Association’s website, United States-based student Saar said: "It’s known that they are quite anti-semitic and it’s no secret, and maybe that’s why a strong game is expected.


    The original article contains 420 words, the summary contains 204 words. Saved 51%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    how am I supposed to understand this, what is the context here?

    An Israeli player said “It’s known that they are quite anti-semitic” and the entire irish team felt so offended by that that they decided not to shake the hands of the israeli team? To show them how unfounded the allegations are?

    What are the details here? the article doesn’t really say much

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        TIL playing volleyball = genocide when you’re born in the wrong country.

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          Is the purpose of international sport not to represent your country? The country currently murdering innocent civilians in their open air prison.

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              They did play the sport, they didn’t shake hands with those representing a country engaged in war crimes.

              Ever heard of conscientious objectors?

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          How do you reconcile the two? The Israelis have murdered indiscriminately across refugee sites and civilian cities. They are targeting protected buildings, using collective punishment and are responding far out of what would be considered in kind.

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          Ayyy! There is a nuance in being pro Israel and being pro Israel. Simply stating that you’re pro Israel, doesn’t cut it.

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            Yes thats true, im not thinking everything they do is fine but in general what they do in Palestine (removing Hamas once and for all) is the only way to get peace, the two state solution is disfavored by everyone involved so its failed.

            Israel should however definitely watch where their bombs hit more closely, although that might be hard considering Hamas is a militant group that don’t look different from normal people at all abd that use said people as shields, its still important.

            Speaking of Hamas, their declared goal is to kill all non Muslims in Israel.

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              It’s easy get peace when everyone else is dead. Pity you have to murder indiscriminately to get to that point.

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              Speaking of Hamas, their declared goal is to kill all non Muslims in Israel.

              Actions speak louder than words bud! Israel killing ten times as many Palestinians than the other way round for decades definitely does. Of course that was up until last October, since when the difference is far wider.

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                And? The difference is the intention. Israel isn’t deliberately targeting civilians, Hamas is. And the intention to genocide is clearly voiced by Hamas (wich is just a Iranian sock puppet tbh) while Israel does not want such things. Furthermore every ceasefire or “peace” gets broken by Hamas, Israel never attacked first.

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                  Israel isn’t deliberately targeting civilians

                  Omfg there’s no way a sane person could believe that.

                  Am Irish btw. No love for hamas, but every sympathy with Palestinians. And full support for our basketball team.

                  How many of the 12,000 children killed in the conflict were combatants?

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              Well, you’re making a fair point in some regards. I agree that the two state solution is forfait, but the general opinion is pretty pro-palestine on Lemmy. I respect your courage or ignorance in that regard. However, I think that any opinion is bullshit anyway. Hamas has done plenty to justify Israel’s reaction, but Israel’s reaction is completely off the shelf as well. I don’t think we, regular folks, in the west, can not trust media coverage in this regard to form an unbiased opinion, because media coverage is just another battlefield these days.

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                How can you say that Israel’s response is justified and overblown? It would have been justified to respond to the terrorist attack, it is a war crime to bomb hospitals and refugee camps. Israel has killed more toddlers, 2-6 year old children, since October than Hamas has killed in total in their attack and since.

                A state has a right to defend itself but it’s spineless to sit on a fence and call it centrist. Israel’s response is ridiculous and if it was Iran we’d have lost our fucking minds already.

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                Eh. I may be a bit biased because i slightly disfavor most Muslim countries for the fact that they would kill me for being gay…

                If Media is or is not biased is not my problem, i have my opinion and that will never change unless Israel suddenly decided to open up concentration camps, wich would get public very fast. Western media coveres in both directions either sucking Israel dong or literally publishing Hamas propaganda, in total you can say they just do a overall terrible job.

                That Israels reaction is in some cases overstepping boundaries very much is a fact for shure however.

                And regarding my opinion on lemmy, there is no Karma shitshow here so i can voice my opinion without fearing not being able to post anymore, so i do something to keep lemmy from becoming reddit 2.0 where voices that are against the norm are taken out. I know my opinion is unpopular here, but i won’t be silent.

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                  I don’t agree that when you’re gay, you should just dislike any muslim country, but I appreciate to hear your opinion about it. (I do agree that their treatment of gays is wrong though) I agree that that’s what an online community shoul be about. Different folks discussing different opinions. That’s what makes the internet awrsome, not advertisements and profits. Just discussions and closing the gap of polarisation.

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      Critiscing the actions of the state of Israel does not equal antisemitism

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        The volleyball team didn’t kill any Palestinian children.
        So how about don’t discriminate against them based on where they were born?

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        Its not criticism to not shake the hands of Jewish people because Israel does XY

        Good they got owned in the game.

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      There doesn’t seem to be any evidence though. It looks like the Israeli team made unsubstantiated accusations so you can’t really blame the Irish team for reacting.