I’m 34. There absolutely were people talking about a fascist bush/Cheney regime in 2004. Sure things are different now, but they’re still very much the same.
I’m 34. There absolutely were people talking about a fascist bush/Cheney regime in 2004. Sure things are different now, but they’re still very much the same.
If you are 34: You were at most 10 years old when Bush won in Nov. 11, 1999, and at most 18 years old when he left office. You were a child. You didn’t vote. You really don’t know if things were “very much the same”.
“You could never understand historical events if you weren’t literally alive and a full grown voting adult to see them”
What a fucking shit take. Have you never commented on a single thing you weren’t alive for? Stop being so reactionary, not every election is “the most important in our country’s history”. Again, gimme a break.
I was also an adult in 2004, and mr_robot is correct, “Vote or Die” was just an edgy get-out-the-vote campaign to make voting cool, not a “VOTE OR WE LITERALLY ARE GOING TO DIE” call to arms against Bush. You are free to comment on things you weren’t alive or and adult for, but you have to be correct. You are just wrong here. Let it go.
The message is the same. Vote or you’ll be subjected to an increasingly authoritarian government bent on making the country worse. Regardless of how edgy you think the campaign was, we’re saying the same shit over and over. You just feel more strongly about it because you understand the context this time.
That wasn’t the message, it’s not the same. You aren’t listening or thinking critically about what you’re saying, or reading carefully what we’re trying to tell you.
The “vote or die” was “edgy” in that 90s way the same way the “DARE” anti-drug campaign was “hip and cool” - a completely mainstream, sanitized “cool” patina applied to the ultimately bland non-partisan message, “hey young adults, vote!” There was no message that if you don’t vote you’ll be subject to an “increasingly authoritarian government.”
This is why mr_robot immediately went after your age - you didn’t live it, you didn’t know what happened, you’re just confidently making a bunch of assumptions that you wouldn’t be making if you had been there. So just let it die.
I would like to note that they only example you’ve provided to equate the two is that p-diddy used s common figurative saying in an attempt to make voting cool.
One can certainly understand things, to an extent, that happened when they were young or before they were born. But if this is the meat of your argument, let alone appearing to be the entirety of it, this is not one of those times.
I’m 34. There absolutely were people talking about a fascist bush/Cheney regime in 2004. Sure things are different now, but they’re still very much the same.
If you are 34: You were at most 10 years old when Bush won in Nov. 11, 1999, and at most 18 years old when he left office. You were a child. You didn’t vote. You really don’t know if things were “very much the same”.
“You could never understand historical events if you weren’t literally alive and a full grown voting adult to see them”
What a fucking shit take. Have you never commented on a single thing you weren’t alive for? Stop being so reactionary, not every election is “the most important in our country’s history”. Again, gimme a break.
I was also an adult in 2004, and mr_robot is correct, “Vote or Die” was just an edgy get-out-the-vote campaign to make voting cool, not a “VOTE OR WE LITERALLY ARE GOING TO DIE” call to arms against Bush. You are free to comment on things you weren’t alive or and adult for, but you have to be correct. You are just wrong here. Let it go.
The message is the same. Vote or you’ll be subjected to an increasingly authoritarian government bent on making the country worse. Regardless of how edgy you think the campaign was, we’re saying the same shit over and over. You just feel more strongly about it because you understand the context this time.
That wasn’t the message, it’s not the same. You aren’t listening or thinking critically about what you’re saying, or reading carefully what we’re trying to tell you.
The “vote or die” was “edgy” in that 90s way the same way the “DARE” anti-drug campaign was “hip and cool” - a completely mainstream, sanitized “cool” patina applied to the ultimately bland non-partisan message, “hey young adults, vote!” There was no message that if you don’t vote you’ll be subject to an “increasingly authoritarian government.”
This is why mr_robot immediately went after your age - you didn’t live it, you didn’t know what happened, you’re just confidently making a bunch of assumptions that you wouldn’t be making if you had been there. So just let it die.
I would like to note that they only example you’ve provided to equate the two is that p-diddy used s common figurative saying in an attempt to make voting cool.
One can certainly understand things, to an extent, that happened when they were young or before they were born. But if this is the meat of your argument, let alone appearing to be the entirety of it, this is not one of those times.