I love my mom more than any person on this planet but even she has said some of these to me. She asks why my cousin stays and doesn’t just leave… “it’s just land!” I guess it is just the principal. No, I don’t think any land is worth my family’s life, and I would curse her staying if anything happened, but. I respect it so much. I wish most people would just not say anything. Better than hearing the video essay consoomer at my work try and talk about “just trying to be nuanced.” I love Hamas bro.

Cant forget the best tally of “victims of communism” - communist civilians killed by nazi invaders 🥴

Im not a Russian domestic politics expert by a long shot but from what i see, a lot of these people liberals joke about “getting pushed out the window” seem worse than Putin

(Although i would like to hear what Russian communists say about that)

And it’s no joke!

Thank you for engaging with my disagreement.

Okay I’m just talking out my ass here and wouldn’t necessarily permanently cosign any of this but:

I guess I see it as, I’d rather someone be spurned into action by questionable motives that we may have to iron out of our society later, than for us to continue to completely lack inertia and accomplish nothing. There just simply isn’t enough fuel burning, Western socialism has no force behind it. Our society has conditioned us to fetishize violence and created murder-curious greedy, selfish, depraved, antisocial beasts of us all. If we don’t have the power to address the source of this disease yet at least we should channel this energy towards something productive? Right now people’s Dark Side energies are being funneled towards fascism, or some aesthetically anarchist indiscriminate/“indiscriminate” mass killing anticiv antinatal misanthropic “burn it all down” nonsense. What if people could instead be encouraged to channel this toxic hatred towards our political class, towards cops, towards middle class white suburban fascists who will be the footsoldiers of the Holocaust and the Barbarossa of tomorrow? What if people who are ruining lives trying to make a living by selling fentanyl to the poor or robbing poor neighbors could be persuaded to victimize the middle class instead? What if would-be school shooters, or those who would shoot up a Black church or a Latino-heavy Walmart, instead shot up a lily-white Target, Starbucks, or even better a country club, or Wall Street? What if all these suicidal left-ish youth used their life more productively against our oppressors? What if socialism was an acceptable outlet for people’s sadism that normally can only be channeled into fascism?

I get this is playing with fire, but how I see things, leftism is so thoroughly corrupted in the US/the West and fascism so normalized and rampant, we may have to try questionable, even downright repugnant methods to win the day. If China was forced to concoct Dengism (which just for the record I can think of much worse) for the sake of pragmatic long-term survival, will we, here in the Heart of the Beast, not have to utilize much worse to win the day?

Also for the record, I want nothing more than to be absurdly wrong. I still try and envision a future for us Westerners that doesn’t end in hellish bloodshed. I refuse to think of things like “love conquers all” as naive or impossible to work, and I do think committing to violence is planting a seed of evil that is simply paying for today with tomorrow, a new disease that will have to excised…much like how the Chinese are dealing with the consequential corruption of Dengism in the now. But, with the board laid out like it is…what, really, are our options?

The first meme is cool but i dont like how it implies biden supports ISR out of ignorance of their murders.

Many actual Soviet soldiers were motivated not by grand ideals of socialism, but by patriotism and simple survival of themselves and their families.

We cannot afford to always be morally ideal. The real world–and particularly, war, which we are all engaging in by being socialists–is ugly. Morals are secondary to victory, which is secondary to survival.

Specifically in regards to killing, killing is nature. Nature is a constant warzone of killing. We ourselves kill every single day just by existing–yes, even those of us who are vegan or pacifist. You cannot escape killing, you can only try and steer who you are killing.

I know when I finally blood myself when this war heats up here I will be heartbroken about it. I have empathy and compassion and see the little child hurting inside even the most wicked fascists. But, there is no choice. If part of the cope is glorifying the killing, if part of what we must use to spurn ourselves to commit the act is the fanfare of war music and attitudes of detachment and sadism, then so be it. Your damn right I’m gonna draw a little tally mark everytime, I would encourage a friendly competition with comrades seeing how many enemies we can end. There is no choice. It’s kill or be killed. It’s whatever it takes.

More 👏 communist 👏 gun nuts 👏

Unfortunately, violence is a part of the solution at this point. Violence is the only thing that stopped the Nazis’ genocidal conquest, it is what enabled the Black South Africans to take back their country from their colonizers. Palestinians tried diplomacy for years, and all it got them was softer genocide. They tried peaceful protest, and their were shot dead by the hundreds. Listen, I get it, violence is not pretty, but when you are dealing with fascists such as the Israelis, you end up not having much choice in the matter. The violence will stop when Israeli apartheid and genocide stops, and that likely won’t stop until Israel as it exists is defeated, as fascism is baked deeply into its political structure.

A century of consistency!

Same energy when people say TLDR. Like sorry you have Spongebob brain and can’t read more than 140 characters? This is supposed do be a diss against me?

Swang that big dick, disrespect your surroundings…underrated kanye bars

Having a bunch of Nazis in your army, having a bunch of Nazis in your political body, sending children into Nazi radicalization summer schools, having an infinite source of photos of thugs with swastika tattoos and schoolchildren throwing Sieg Heil, international fascists all excited to go to kill Russians in Ukraine alongside their ideological brethren, (as letranger’s comment above reminds us) streets and holidays and events being named after brutal Nazis who slaughtered thousands of civilians, constant rhetoric since 2014 about how all Russians are “orcs” followed by routine violence against ethnic Russians, Jews, brown people, black people, and gay people in Ukraine that killed thousands before Russia did a single thing in this conflict, yeah this doesn’t mean it’s a Nazi regime though. Don’t you think if it was, Zelensky would have gone on TV to say, “Hey guys, we’re a Nazi regime!” ??? I mean prior to this war all the center-left mainstream Western news outlets were talking about how much corruption and how many Nazis were in Ukraine but really, that’s just insane Russian conspiracy. Stupid Russians don’t know a thing about what constitutes a Nazi, amiright? Oh wait, every country outside the West is either neutral or supports Russia? Sounds like there are 6.5 billion Russian bots on this planet…

Was the entire collective Canadian parliament giving an SS soldier a standing ovation and raucous applause, followed by defending it, not “praising Nazis”?

The USA, Canada, and many of their allies fought to save as many Nazis from Nuremberg as they could. USA and Nazi Germany inspired each other. Nazi officers, generals, scientists, politicians, and others were given intense PR rehabilitation and integrated into Western society; many were immediately given their old positions back in Western Germany.

The USA and its allies supported fascism over and over and over again in the Middle East, Latin America, Africa, Asia, Eastern Europe. Even in Western Europe, they set forth with Operation Gladio where Neo Nazi paramilitaries would be funneled weapons and arms, ready to strike and kill civilians should the peoples of Europe rise against their ruling classes.

Twice in recent years, the UN has proposed legislation to “combat Nazism/Neo Nazism and its glorification.” Each time, the USA and Ukraine were the only ones who voted “no,” and the only ones who abstained from voting were the rest of the US’s allies.

I’m sorry my friend but if you live in the West, you live as a part of a Nazi Empire. We were committing industrial genocide before the Nazis were shitting diapers.

At least it is a stark sign of the Empire dying

Devil worship if there ever was such a thing

Literally…they will slowly push the world into hating them and then wanting to commit violence against them due to their paranoid, projective insanity…

I agree that our ruling class uses idpol as yet another way to divide us and pit us against each other, and avoiding labels where possible is a plus, but sometimes it is unavoidable. Everyone partakes in spreading anticommunist propaganda, but the weirdly most ardent champions of anticommunism lately is not conservatives/fascists but liberals/“leftists” who should, theoretically, be the easiest to sway to our position. People do identify and identify strongly with these labels, it is important that we attack the label and degrade the faith they have in their respective niche within the wider cult.

The core West is going to just go full Satan mode until they as a coherent hegemony immolate themselves or are put down. I fear us socialists won’t get much chance to affect serious change until it starts getting more dire.