I thought you were exaggerating, but nope. That thread is really hard to read. I guess if you’re the type to run executables off a discord server you’re not the brightest bulb though lol

Or he knows that he’ll likely get primaried if he changes his stance? Money runs politics in more ways than one

That’s fucking awesome. Stoked for you!

Or maybe that slur really did carry less weight for an Englishman in 1971? Here’s the quote you referenced:

Let me ask you about something else that was in the Hunter Davies book. At one point it said you and Brian Epstein went off to Spain.

Yes. We didn’t have an affair though. Fuck knows what was said. I was pretty close to Brian. If somebody is going to manage me, I want to know them inside out. He told me he was a fag.

I hate the way Allen is attacked and Brian is made out to be an angel just because he’s dead. He wasn’t, you know, he was just a guy.

I read the entire interview. There’s nothing in there condemning being gay, or even really any commentary on sexuality. He says a slur a few times! In 1971! There’s also a huge chunk of the interview where he talks about supporting civil rights, which you’re not talking about for some reason.

Your comments makes it sound like he’s hand in hand with Reagan 10 years later, when it’s honestly less offensive than a lot of shit that’s been said this decade by politicians and Christians worldwide.

I doubt I can change your mind, since you seem pretty set on this point. But I’m curious: Elton John didn’t come out as gay until the 90s. If he was killed in 1980, would you be calling him a bigot too?

As far as I can tell, the lawsuit is still ongoing? This is the most recent court document I could find, but it’s more than a year old: https://www.vermontjudiciary.org/sites/default/files/documents/bombard v riggen mello 21-cv-176 11-2-22.pdf

Very interested to see how much the taxpayers have to pay for another cop abusing his power

I’m not saying “oh, it was the 70s, fag meant something else” (even though that’s true - 60 years have gone by!). I’m saying that taking that comment out of context and labeling the guy as a bigot is some 2023 shit. Lennon was, by his own admission, bisexual - and it’s entirely possible that he actually hooked up with Epstein (and Elton John, later on).

I’m not defending the comment, to be clear. It’s quite nasty. But using that to label him as a homophobe/bigot is an absurd reach.

He was an asshole fwiw, and the domestic/child abuse is completely inexcusable. But for fucks sake, he was probably referring to hippies with that comment.

And honestly, it is important to view things in historical context. Being supportive of an quasi-openly gay person (and letting them manage your career!) when it was criminal takes balls, and that’s not something that should be erased because of one nasty quote.

Easy to throw stones in 2023. That seems horrid now, of course, but homosexuality was literally criminalized in the UK in the 60s - the same time period where they had a gay manager. Look into the sexual tension/love affair between Epstein (Brian, not Jeffrey) and Lennon. Dude was genuinely progressive for the times (over half a fucking century ago, y’all) and to shape that as bigotry is borderline misinformation.

Rag on him for beating his wife, not this silly shit

Edit: here’s some actual context about this notorious “bigot”. https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/john-lennon-the-beatles-song-defend-brian-esptein-sexuality/

Banger album

I’m voting for the geezer in 2024, but let’s be real - Dems will never give us a better option. Biden is genuinely a pretty good president comparatively (imo), but real change will not come from either mainstream party. Don’t forget what they did to Bernie in 2020, or why Buttigieg is the Secretary of Transportation. (They’re the same)

Having sympathy for Vietnam vets is the same thing, except culturally acceptable for Americans. You can root for Russia to lose and also mourn the lives lost in a war that civilians were forced to participate in.

Dumb mods!

God, aren’t those Jims just beautiful

You shouldn’t be so rude when you’re just dead wrong

Damn I’ve never seen someone live tweet brain damage

Wow that’s a really poor opening for It Lives Inside. Bad word of mouth, or competition from Nun 2?

Isn’t that the cover of the third dark tower book

nah leave it was a fun read

Yeah sure I’ll drive my fucking gun to work

Ah yes, nobody talks about the daily news of someone killing dozens of people with knives, old tools, and/or cars! We should absolutely not worry about guns while these clearly significantly more dangerous weapons are allowed to proliferate so easily!

Right now I’m checking out Bill Callahan’s YTILAER because of you @ren - but if anyone wants a recommendation, I’ve been completely obsessed with John Grant’s album Queen Of Denmark. Phenomenal stuff - check out the title track or Sigourney Weaver.