Dr. Dabbles

All scams come to an end when they run out of marks to steal from.

Sounds like one of those people that doesn’t take a raise because it’ll put them in a new tax bracket. People that don’t know how the adult world works.

It seems like you don’t own a home, so I’m not sure there’s much point in continuing this conversation.

Seems like plenty people agree taxes should be paid. In fact so many people agree that it’s a law. Your greed will never fill that void, btw.

Cry to someone that gives a shit. Be less greedy. I’ve paid my share of capital gains, you don’t see me crying like a greedy little piggy about it.

think the capital gains tax exception

Nope. No exceptions. You made money for doing no work, you pay taxes on that money. Plain and simple. Cap Gains tax rates are already absurdly low, so frankly anybody asking for a further reduced rate or exception is already a greedy pig not worth listening to.

Aww, poor them. They only had enough left over to pay fully for their next place and pocket $50k.

There is little incentive to downsize.

As long as you ignore property taxes and maintenance costs. Which normal people don’t ignore.

You vastly misunderstood what I was talking about. They are greedy. They want to realize those gains and not pay taxes. Greed. This has nothing to do with anything else. They were happy to see the value go up as high as possible until they realized they need to pay their fair share. I’m angry at them for being greedy.

Nope. They got greedy by staying in that house for as long as possible to maximize their gains, and by then bitching about taxes.

Try harder next time.

… What’s the issue?

They paid for the next place, including fees, and still have $50k in their pocket? How greedy does someone need to be, exactly, before we consider the behavior repugnant?

They were empty nesters 10 and 20 years ago too most likely. They got greedy and now they don’t want to pay tax on the absurd increase in value of their house?

Cry me a river. The only feelings this should spark in anybody reading it is anger and hatred. Greedy, repulsive people.

When the only things you read are Tesla marketing, it’s unlikely you’ll get the truth.

I already qualified some reasons why but let me be more explicit. The cells charge slower, are lower energy, cost more, and are heavier. They delivered on none of the hype, they were years late, their production numbers are hilariously low, and the manufacturing yields are far lower than competitors.

so I asked Bard to

Let me stop you here and say you’re going to have a bad time if you attempt to have this explained to you by a text generator.

The first problem is you asked it about the form factor rather than the cells, manufacturing process, and chemistry themselves. The shape makes perhaps the least difference of all. Well, except that Panasonic (the company that actually invented Tesla’s “revolutionary” battery tab mechanism) already documented a ton of issues with assembling cells reliably when you’ve got a bunch of tabs. What you want in that case is actually a pouch cell or a prismatic.

Bard also missed a pretty major one under “Lower production cost”. Massive volume makes 21700 cells cheaper too, since all of your costs are divided by a huge number. This is also why 18650s are beating the 21700s. Also, fun fact, Tesla’s top performing pack for charge and discharge rates is built in 18650 NMC cells.

Wider compatibility

That’s a meaningless argument produced by a text generator.

Faster charging

Not some cases. All cases. All of Tesla’s products based on 21700 cells from all of their suppliers charge faster than any of the packs based on Tesla’s in-house cells. Charging “infrastructure” has absolutely nothing to do with this, it’s a nonsense hallucination by a text generator. This is one of the major reasons to not use one.

Lower energy density

This is just an outright lie, which you could determine by doing the math. Tesla’s early Model 3 cells were 17.3 Wh each, while their in-house 46800 are 86 Wh. The Model 3 cells have improved over time, but let’s stick with the earliest of both products. So this means their 21700 cells were 247 Wh/kg while the 46800s are 244 Wh/kg. Taking the volume of each cell into account, the old Model 3 cells are 713.55 Wh/L and the 46800 cells are 651.5 Wh/L. So the simple math clearly shows it’s lower density in both dimensions.

Bard slurped up text from marketing efforts and mangled it with some other words and gave it to you. This is a warning not to use these things to learn new topics, they’re less reliable than Wikipedia.

More complex manufacturing

This is another nonsense argument. First and foremost, Tesla uses stamped collectors on the Y and 3 packs based on 21700 cells so there’s really no more complexity in manufacturing. On the S and X packs, they use bonding wires. Bonding wires robots do this work insanely quickly, so it’s a foolish argument there as well. Bard has again slurped up nonsense from a fan blog and repeated it, because there’s no intelligence in what Bard does. Trusting these things blindly is a problem.

As an example of what bonding wire robots do, BTW, they are used in the production of every single processor and microprocessor on the planet. Products numbering in the tens if not hundreds of billions per year, with precision requirements wall beyond anything Tesla needs for their old packs from 2012, let alone the newer stamped collectors from 2018.

Limited scalability

I already demonstrated that the energy density bit was made up nonsense. But this part is also complete horse shit. Cell chemistry tends to improve approximately 5% per year averaged over a 5 year window. Tesla didn’t increase the pack dimensions when going to the 82 kWh Model 3 pack, they simply changed cell chemistry. If I used the cells from that pack in the calculations above, it would make this argument outlandishly pointless.

4680 Simpler manufacturing

The cell isn’t “tabless” bit instead has a shitload of tabs. Like I said already, Panasonic invented this tech and they abandoned it because it’s a frequent source of cell failure. Their patents on this are from over a decade ago, they documented all of their issues pretty well, and Tesla’s own internal documents when leaked showed they have massive yield problems in their Texas battery factory.

Potential for faster charging

Potential. And instead what we see in real products on sale is the opposite. so that potential didn’t materialize.

Considered by who? They charge slower, their energy density is slightly worse, and they’re more expensive than supplier sources cells. Tesla botched all of the desired improvements because they once again assumed they could harass employees into making breakthroughs that have been worked on in the industry for decades.

The missiles at night

Are big and bright

Launched at the heart of Texas

Anyway good luck being a large economy with no trade partners and ports blockaded.

If I want frozen garbage, I can buy it at any grocery store. No need to go to an overpriced place that leaves most of their floor space empty. I legit do not get trader joe’s or why people like it. Easily have that place is just frozen crap, and the other half is random vegetables and candy.

Don’t forget bidding them “a very good day” if they see them in the streets.

It’s absolutely not, and it’s almost certainly grown, picked, packed, and shipped by the same slave labor.

Trader Joe’s is overpriced Aldi. Their employees are told to smile, just like everywhere else you go that employees are always smiling. Nobody’s that happy at work, and that shouldn’t come as a surprise to anybody at this point.

Sadly not. His investors will look the other way on literally everything except an end to fraudulent claims of growth.