Well can tell people about about it, if we all can get just one or two peoplle to make the switch and they did the same then there’d be exponential growth, the bigger problem is people who dont see the need to swtich, which is why I’m glad when reddit shoots their foot like this and makes it more obvious

People shouldn’t be afraid of their governments governments should be afraid of their people - V For Vendetta

I hope it radicalises more reddit users to join the fediverse

It remains the case that the majority of farmland is for animal agriculture, and grazing only on grass would increase land use not decrease it, as it stands the vast majority of murdered farm animals are fattened up on soy and corn feed. Suggesting that the most environmentally sound thing to do is to just feed them all grass something which we physically don’t have the land for is ridiculous

Theres a reason thats not common, its way more expensive and less efficient in terms of land use, also you might think of grassy fields as being super sustainable but theyre not a natural ecosystem, theyre a monocrop like any other where shrubland or forests have to give way to grazing fields, in the uk where I’m from the majority of our land is dedicated to these kind of fields already and its decimated our natural forests. There is no world in which feeding cows pigs chickens and sheep on grass only including finished feed reduces land use it would increase it. J.poore 2017, a comprehensive metastudy on land use and emissions of the global food sector found that a global transition to plant based diets would lead to a 70% reduction in land use, they looked at thousands upon thousands of farms accross the world yes including “grass fed” farms

First of all, humans are animals, the term you’re looking for is non-human animal. Secondly, grass fed is a myth, theyre fattened up on corn and soy all the same, you should know that the vast majority of deforestation ; the vast majority of monocropping, is done to sustain animal agriculture

Vegans kill the least plants though because of something called trophic energy loss. Most plants are fed to animals you kill.

It seems to take a few moments to generate the new webpage I was expecting it to just literally <b></b> text paragraphs I thought that would be more effiicent

And if that day never comes youll just keep paying for innocent animals to be killed? Theres very little that can excuse slicing the throat of an innocent being

at the end of the day no matter what vegans do our existence is a threat to the cognitive dissonance of meat eaters, I have two options: I can be so nonchalant that it seems like I’m actually ok with people killing animals needlesly and therefore theres no reason to question their beliefs or I can actually put a bit of passion into my defense of animals and risk people like you for some reason getting annoyed that my advocacy isnt effective? (Like if you are against veganism why correct me while im making a mistake right clearly theres something else going on here psychologically why you feel the need to correct me) Meanwhile lots of people actually do change their mind on veganism from a no nonsense approach see people like joey carbstrong and earthling ed for examples of how that can be done well

Why would we do that when we can eat plants its cheaper healthier doesnt kill an innocent animal and is better for the environment

most vegan cuisine has nothing to do with fake meat thats only been a thing for a couple of decades at most

It is a cyclical thing both consumers and producers are responsible in different ways in most cases the use of plastic in packaging is producers fault for example but eating animal products is a choice for 99% of people on the planet and going vegan is the single biggest way to reduce your carbon footprint (see joseph poore 2018)

71% of corporations is the new climate denial were at the bargaining stage now: “well the drastic sacrifice were going to have to make doesnt matter because corporations need to do something before I even attempt to start living in line with earths resources”

“Youre going about it all wrong: this method is how you convince people to stop slitting innocent animals throats. I know this method works because it didnt work on me.” fyi if I could snap my fingers and somehow force everyone to leave animals alone I’d do it in a heartbeat, wouldnt you do the same to end all murder?

Please stop killing innocent animals

I mean its murder, I’m not going to weigh which is worse murder or rape theyre just both bad dont do them “but it gives me pleasure” is not an excuse for either murder or rape

so you dont like being called out got it snowflake

First of all I think that violence in self defense or survival is justified, plants have tropisms which means they have small hard coded responses to certain stimuli like leaning toward light, they do not have any form of sense processing thus no awareness no preference theyre an object

Even if you wanted to minimise the harm caused to plants, it takes far more plants to feed livestock to sustain an omnivorous diet

Debunking a myth: plant consciousness. Protoplasma 258, 459–476 https://doi.org/10.1007/s00709-020-01579-w

you might like this video a meat eaters case for veganism abt 20m long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1vW9iSpLLk