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  • First one: Oxidative stress biomarkers, ie caused by most things and also are largely irrelevant? Biomarkers don’t actually correlate to actual risk increases in themselves.

    Second one: High long term exposure, ie being consistently doused in the stuff somehow, And is looking at meta-risk, so not actual risk of cancer development. Also, the 41% even therein is based on risk increase from the original numbers, not an absolute increase. Meaning the actual risk went from something akin to 0.4% over a lifetime to 0.55%. And this only applies to someone who has massive exposure repeatedly over a long period of time.

    Third one: Has nothing to do with science or evidence of any kind. Judges in courts don’t know anything about science, hence why scientific experts and organizations actually research this stuff.

    Fourth one: Is likely referencing studies already covered in #2, which again relies on actually understanding what the 41% is referring to.

    In short, a lot of media fearmongering about science would be less effective if the general public understood statistics better.




  • I don’t care about the companies involved, but I do care about misinformation and pseudoscience being spread about known biochemistry and toxicology for a personal motive. Glyphosate is used in a wide variety of scientific fields that have nothing to do with agriculture and these lawsuits don’t even attempt to prove the claims of cancer.

    They are entirely emotion-based jury decisions with the plaintiffs’ lawyers going that route, rather than trying to provide scientific evidence for the claimed harm.




  • The annoying part about all of this legislation is that no scientific evidence is ever presented. If it does cause cancer, I would love for it to be definitively shown. But that’s not even attempted in these lawsuits.

    The big original suit with the university gardener who (somehow) poured glyphosate all over himself and developed Hodgkin’s lymphoma developed the lymphoma…within six months after the incident in question, with other symptoms indicating sooner than that even. And since the development of such a cancer and onset of symptoms takes around a year…which was before he ever started working at the university…their own timeline debunked the claim.

    But the jury seemingly ignored that little tidbit of scientific importance.