Pre internet links are hard. I grew up using these versions of open source.

IBM SCO and sun formed Open source licences that were very literally you got to see and change the source.

In the 60 as CPU tech was a minefield of different ideas and architecture. It was the only way companies your keep up with mainframe PCs.

You will need to go to a library with microfiche and hubd down the 1960s open source magazine if you want more then actual old farts telling you the truth,

Unfortunately you fail to understand the history. Stall man FSF etc is a relatively new organisation started in the 80s.

Open source was a term long before that. And it was created by early Unix commercial dostros in the 60s. There were magazines etc dedicated to it as a mess with to allow commercial software to spread to multiple platforms. Long before stallmans free as in beer attitude.

So no the other licences have a place in history and are open source even if you and I may not support their ideals.

This is why words like libre and free software were formed to include our expanded ideals.

Only some definitions of open source state that. The concept has existed long before the free software foundation.

While personally agree with the FSF. To say it is an exclusive definition of open source is just outright false.

If any attempt to keep his error a secret. You may have a point.

But he was very open about the error. An easy error that many make every year. And fixed by back dating the new licence.

So no. A minister accepting he has the same requirements to address his errors as any other law abiding citizen. Really is not a negative.

PS yes it’s been decades since I fished. But historically yes EA inspectors etc allowed expired licence owners found fishing to renew this way.

Simple lack of a regular supply is a food security issue.

It has to be replaced and ensuring the alternative exist is an issue that takes land and effort.

At a time when farms harvest have failed. Alternatives also have issues.

Stop looking for reasons not to care.

You clearly lack any understanding of food supply.

It takes 4 to 6 months to grow a new crop. Not to mention free growing land is hardly available.

Add to that a couple of years to expand current production facilities. No a huge source of current protine is in no way instantly replaceable with plant milk.

Historically yes taste has negative affects on citizens health. Look at WW2 war history of trying to force replace products in the past. You cannot force folks to consume things they dislike health is lost historically. Even in a war setting it has issues.

It takes huge time and investment and yes societies health is seriously effected by refusal to accept the replacement.

Your attitude seems childish in many ways. Based entirely on your own perceived importance of a high Y used product. With no understating of what is involved in actually replacing such products. Or what happens to non milked cows if dairly farms fail.

I have no issue with blaming those responsible. But yes any lose of a hugely used food source is a seriose issue.

Agreed. Running out wise.

But the taste of the alternatives is simply not milk. Many find alternatives unpleasent. So their will always be a demand.

But yeah that demand is currently artificially high due to low pricing by supermarkets/delivery competition.

The whole thing is making things hard for dairy farms. Not just staffing that is more to do with the pricing.

But the whole supermarkets avoiding uK providers for cheese etc.

Agreed. Likely in the low millions £ to fix by skilled specialists.

If milk disappears. You will wake up to us old tea drinking zombies trying to eat brains.

Just a warning.

Tea with real milk is still one of the most popular drinks in the UK. Just not for youngsters.

Milk alternatives are still low sales compared to real milk. Even as popular as they have grown.

Edit: I’ll add. We actually import the majority of cheese from Ireland. We do make our own. But milk is the main product of UK diaries. As it is still cheaper to transport shorter distance then any secondary dairy products. Cheese butter etc. so supermarkets tend to stay as local as possible for such short storage projects.

Only interested if the gov takes on all the debt.

So likely just going to sell off more assets and gain any wealth the can before letting it fail again.

Selling off to private investors is just moving the issue to another government while making tax payers pay for past bad behaviours.

Interesting how this, rowers etc. Is all confirming the right-wing conspiracy shit claiming a summer riot is coming.

Do not consider this anything less than right-wing troublemakers. Intentionally looking for victims to attack. Trying to over emphasis public fear above its real level.

So going into arbitration. When a UK legal court has already ruled the contract as illegal under UK law.

Arbitration has no authority to enforce criminal actions.

This looks like nothing but a desperate attempt to force bullshit and I’m stunned Starmer is not using parliament to clearly state no.

Just to be clear sorry paint over flight surfaces is not something anyone flying can just ignore.

It is very able to bring down an aircraft if the wronge surfaces are stuck due to such paint. And most modern aircraft surfaces do not allow huge movement spaces. (Excepting some limited early stealth models that needed to grow at speed. But materials tech has hugely changed since early 60 when early stealth aircraft leaked fuel at take off)

Is it terrorism likely not. I at least cannot make an argument where tempory lack of 2 aircraft is a threat of terror.

But it is damage to the aircraft that requires funding to correct before use.

Only if you can get agreement among that legion.

Otherwise you are just disprates groups.

This why the wealthy control the media so well.

Cartoon of billionaire telling you the immigrant wants to steel your penny.

They may live their. But only the poor ones care.

Recent changes in rightwing policy seems to make it clear, the wealthy are taking a we can protect our livesyle approach. Fuck the po folk.

Hold on here. When political leaders call for violence to force a gov to implement their own policy.

We seem to have lots of laws to control that. So unless his statements are entirely withing parliamentary session. Why the fuck is he not facing prison,

As I am sure you know our primary source of food is not random allotments.

It used to be. As recently S THE 1970s gardens and allotments were the source of the majority of grown food. Specifically friut and veg potatoes etc. these were historically a huge part of the UK diet.

Supermarkets being the default is a very recent thing.

It was even common in the past post war period for green grocers to buy goods from local allotments growers.

Unfortunately the move to commercial production has done huge harm. In both product variety as allotment farmers tended to use more seed varieties then farmers do. But also in the use of steril crops.

All done purely to increase profits while reducing the diversity allowing crops to survive extra. Conditions.

Honestly if people cannot see how important such things are, they are not thinking fully,

It’s been and seriose issue for decades.

In poor urban areas few have gardens. So to allow poor to continue to grow some of their own quality food. Post WW2 the allotment scheme was kept for such areas. As for many it was the only option.

For anyone older we hears about right wing effects to sell off the land at least every 10 years or so. Waiting lints have increased to decades in many areas.

The land is designed to be cheap to rent. But requires use as an allotment. So age is often how they change hands.

Sane argument made for every form of media that ever existed.

Issue comes when xealots refuses to allow parents to make that choice. And instead enforce their own guidelines. AS THEY HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO DO.

This is no new argument. It has existed since the creation of the printing press.

They no longer count as a broadcast channel in the UK. As they gave up(before losing).that licence.

So ofcom now has limited control.

Considering the direction the US is headed.

Overtly repeating many of the ideas and actions of the 1930 fascist government.

Not really sure leaders of such governments should be considered to have much value in such ideas.