I’m not defending the vote so much as pointing out that it was a meaningless vote.

Just ignore the part where you kept suggesting the Iron Dome was “defensive” therefore it’s OK and “not a weapon” (lmao) therefore voting in favour of it would be legitimate.

Again, you’re just an obtuse moron twisting yourself into a pretzel pretending its nuance.

If MTG brought up an amendment that said everyone gets to live forever and AOC voted against it, would you claim AOC is pro-death or would you recognize that MTG’s proposal was a useless measure that shouldn’t be taken seriously?

You’re just not a serious person. Learn to shut the fuck up.

Except I’m not. You literally quoted me saying I don’t support funding the iron dome.

You are an absurdly obtuse and disingenuous person.

Iron Dome funding is sending arms to Israel. Iron Dome protects Israel as it invades its neighbours and commits a genocide. It’s that simple.

You are defending a vote against stripping iron dome funding, accusing others of being in favour of killing civilians whilst trying to claim you also don’t support funding Israel. You can’t have it both ways. You support killing of civilians with your own stupid fucking rhetoric, but you want to dance around the issue and pretend you aren’t doing what you are in fact doing.

There actually was a lot of debate about civilian deaths in the firebombing of Dresden and the dropping of the atomic bombs in Japan. Your lack of historical context and nuance doesn’t help your broad brush arguments.

You are genuinely a fucking moron. I said nothing about Dresden or dropping nukes. You are literally advocating for sending AA guns to Hitler by equating and reducing all forms of military response as being one and the same as mass murder of civilians to suggest it’s legitimate to support funding for the Iron Dome as “defensive”.

I wouldn’t personally support funding anything in Russia or Israel.

Yet here you are defending funding the iron dome. Weird that.

A gun is an offensive weapon. It’s not useful for self defense. You can’t shoot bullets out of the air easily. There’s no need for useless name-calling.

A missile is an offensive weapon. What do you think the iron dome is? Idiot.

Except she voted against said funding by voting against the bill.

Yet she defended funding the iron dome, which is giving arms to Israel.

The iron dome existed before the current genocide.

Irrelevant to the point.

But you’re literally saying that civilians in Israel should die because the people in control of the government and military are committing genocide.

Irrelevant to the point. You’re saying Russian civilians should die by saying you wouldn’t fund anything in Russia. You also said the same about Israel, so you also support killing Israeli civilians according to you.

You’re saying German civilians should die because you refuse to provide Hitler with AA guns.

I’d be interested in defending Israel entirely. The conservatives in the majority in Congress will not allow that to happen. However AOC voted or even if she abstained, the results would not be any different.

??? nonsensical.

She literally didn’t say that. If she did, you could quote her saying “Tlaib and Omar are Nazis.” You’re assigning that meaning to her words and then getting upset at your own interpretation.

“If you believe neo-nazis are welcome and operating in good faith, you can have them!” She said about people voting in favour of the amendment. She called Ilhan and Tlaib nazis.

Would you support funding an iron dome for Russia against Ukraine?

The iron dome isn’t a defensive “weapon.” That’s a contradiction in terms.

A gun doesn’t stop being a weapon because you used it in self defence, idiot.

She specifically cited an interest in not having innocent people die.

By funding arms to Israel to protect it from consequences of committing a genocide and invading and bombing multiple neighbours, which then allows it to act with further impunity to keep doing what it’s doing.

She did not call Tlaib a Nazi. That’s a gross misrepresentation of the statement. Ask Tlaib if she thinks AOC was referring to her.

She straight up declared anyone who voted for it effectively a nazi. She called Tlaib and Omar nazis.

AOC herself defended “”“defensive”“” weapns to Israel. She was against the amendment on those grounds.

Her and other progressives vote for “doomed” bills and amendments all the time, as do most politicians. They vote for them to signal their position and push those positions publicly as much as anything else.

Rashiba Tlaib voted for the amendment. AOC called her a nazi.

Let’s send defensive weapons to nazi germany during the holocaust.

“Defensive” as Israel invades and occupies multiple countries.

The distinction between defensive and offensive is meaningless.

Mate, are you really just gonna keep moving the goalposts and doing this subpar jordan peterson fan shit?

Imagine being this pathetically tied to a youtuber, holy shit.

He has stated his favourite author is a Japanese fascist who wanted to restore the emperor, Yukio Mishima, who tried to do a coup and killed himself when he failed.

But I’m sure he just likes the guy for his prose, and has no particular fixation or interest in Nazi and fascist imagery and politics.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/2/17/14613234/pewdiepie-nazi-satire-alt-right

He has repeatedly and overtly used Nazi imagery, made a multitude of “jokes” like this:

Mr. Kjellberg says the material is portrayed in jest. He showed a clip from a Hitler speech in a Sept. 24 video criticizing a YouTube policy, posted swastikas drawn by his fans on Oct. 15 and watched a Hitler video in a brown military uniform to conclude a Dec. 8 video. He also played the Nazi Party anthem before bowing to a swastika in a mock resurrection ritual on Jan. 14, and included a very brief Nazi salute with a Hitler voice-over saying “Sieg Heil” and the text “Nazi Confirmed” near the beginning of a Feb. 5 video.

[…]

In addition to more overt Nazi symbolism, Kjellberg makes references to the alt-right that are veiled but obvious if you know where to look. In one video from late August, he makes an extended racist joke comparing Harambe the gorilla to Saturday Night Live and Ghostbusters actress and comedian Leslie Jones, echoing the widespread politically tinged, racist harassment that Jones endured last summer, largely from the alt-right.

And in another video from November, Kjellberg overlays a swastika, along with audio of a speech from Hitler, over unrelated commentary about clickbait YouTube channels. He then goes on to refer to BuzzFeed as “a bunch of cucks” — “cuck” being an alt-right buzzword.

They deleted everything you posted and talked about it for a bit.

Of course they did, first rule of every bad moderator is immediately deleting shit. Did they leave the other responses up? Someone specifically said something along the lines of “Palestinians were kicked out of every culture”.

Some others have come in to pick a fight with them.

To push back on their racist shit? If so, then based, as they say.

I don’t think so? I didn’t think to grab the username before I was kicked. But the discord is linked on the website and their masto page, invite link works, so people can probably see for themselves (offtopic channel).

BTW, you are not a nutcase and do not deserve to be banned for calling them out.

With my experience over the last year, it’s nice for once for someone to not just be like “Ohh so you think Hamas is good???” and all that bullshit for once.

Seeing far right adjacent shit go unchallenged is difficult for me to ignore, even moreso when they then just casually engage in racist rhetoric against Palestinians to excuse literal genocidal language. Was never really active in the discord until seeing that shit just being left alone to fester, and clearly it has the approval of whoever is left to mod there.

Deserves to feel the pain Palestinian families felt as he covered for Israel’s genocide and pushed false atrocity propaganda about beheaded babies.