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  • Though he was named directly and is still just an economist.

    Well he’s a famous guy and knows a lot of important people, directly worked with the CIA and USA government before. And Davel wasn’t saying “The Lancet published this conspiracy” but that the guy that the Lancet - who is very trustworthy - trusts and says is qualified to weigh in, is independently pushing it. So Jeremy was borrowing his authority from having been associated with The Lancet, and he has some authority already from his celebrity-status and previous work, not necessarily from his hard skills (economics).

    That’s a far cry from “CIA bioweapon” like the OOP believes.

    Okay. I believe that. I haven’t read the article and don’t want to weigh in. I haven’t investigated the claim, anything I add can only be nonsense. I wasn’t pushing a Fort Detrick bioweapon conspiracy, I just wanted to clarify Davel’s comment because I didn’t feel your objection to it was fair, or if it was just a question with no position then I answered the question. Feel free to discuss the article with Davel since you have both read the article.



  • I’d think there’d be at least as much pro-China content on a Chinese platform.

    There is a lot of Chinese state-sponsored propaganda on TikTok, as well as pro-China speech by unaffiliated users. This is true of TikTok and of YouTube and Twitter. (The state-sponsored propaganda I’m highlighting isn’t particularly insidious, it’s things like student exchange or paid travel bloggers, Chinese news spending budget to create English language content). But you aren’t more likely to come across it on TikTok than western platforms, because China doesn’t control the algorithm. TikTok was forked off a Chinese product, but it’s controlled by Oracle and the USA in terms of tuning and moderation. The Chinese just collect rent.

    Now if your angle isn’t that TikTok pushes those things, but just that kids use it and kids are impressionable, then I don’t have any objections with what you’re saying. I haven’t seen any Chinese state-sponsored content that plays well with kids, but I wouldn’t expect to either since my recommendation feed looks different (and I don’t use TikTok).


  • Would it really be a shock to anyone if a global superpower spread propaganda to be viewed more positively by people around the world? Russia and the USA do it all the time. Why wouldn’t China?

    Completely reasonable.

    I’d say it’s quite likely.

    But this isn’t reasonable at all, and it’s what you’re trying to defend.

    Lemmy has no value. It’s a waste of resources. Your assertion wasn’t that China is has propaganda. I know they do, there are hundreds of officially disclosed initiatives. Your assertion is that Lemmy users aren’t genuine.

    You also implied that TikTok - A platform globally moderated by the the USA - is a hotbed for PR Chinese propaganda, which isn’t reasonable either.












  • Aria@lemmygrad.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlBased
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    You can just visit KCNA’s website, it’s a normal website. I’m disappointed to see communists spread this type of disinformation. Yes, Israel is an illegitimate state. No, North Korea is not so fragile and dire that they can’t afford to humanely and non-punitively re-educate the like one weirdo Zionist they might have.

    This 'news' probably spawned from this article published 07/06/25. It doesn't talk about the same thing at all.

    Pyongyang, July 6 (KCNA) – Israel’s “war machine” which plunged the whole area of Gaza in blood is running madly.

    The Gaza area has already turned into a “ground hell” where the human existence environment was completely destroyed due to the war that has been going on for nearly two years.

    Since October 2023, the number of Palestinians killed by Israeli army has increased at least 56 000 and all the inhabitants in the Gaza Strip are facing food shortage. Of them, 470 000 are in “fatal hunger”, the worst stage in the international index on the food situation.

    Even in the present situation that the humanitarian crisis has reached its extreme phase, Israeli murderers are constantly expanding military attacks in the Gaza Strip, which was turned into ruins, updating the record of genocide every day.

    Where is the end of bloody massacre and destruction, indeed?

    The Zionists have justified their unethical atrocities in the Gaza Strip under the pretext of the “hostage rescue” and “sweeping of Hamas (Islamic Resistance Movement of Palestine)” and have so far misled public opinion as if they were the end of bloodshed.

    In the early days of the Gaza crisis, the prime minister of Israel asserted that Israel had no thought for permanently occupying Gaza or making the civilians emigrate from it, and that “the aim is to sweep away Hamas in Gaza and obtain hostages’ release.”

    In contrast with this, the sweeping of Hamas has already turned into massacre of civilians, total destruction of existence environment and forcible exile of the inhabitants in Gaza and the release of hostages has been placed in the back long ago.

    Voices to demand for ending war and realizing the humanitarian ceasefire are growing in Israel, saying that “sweeping of Hamas”, the main goal of the war, has not been achieved and the release of hostages is not feasible without negotiation. But the Zionists are persistently divorcing from this reality.

    It is proved by the acts of the Israeli warmongers who deliberately broke the ceasefire which had been difficultly created through the mediation of the international community in the past and gradually expanded the war, thus fling away the opportunity to exchange thousands of Palestinian prisoners for their hostages.

    The Israeli prime minister, who has recently become more upbeat under the patronage of his American master, is openly saying that there is no way to stop the war even if Israel brings hostages, swinging from his previous attitude of giving priority to the release of hostages.

    The Israeli military warmongers’ rhetoric is more direct. They asserted that “we will act with all our efforts and will not stop action until all the goals are achieved, including the voluntary immigration plan of the Gaza residents” and “unlike in the past, the Israel Defense Forces will not withdraw from the seized areas (although the Gaza war ends),” openly agitating full occupation and annexation of the Gaza Strip.

    The reality clearly shows that even if all the hostages are released, the bloody military atrocities in Gaza will continue with no reason and justification, and that only the result of the complete annexation of Gaza is the ultimate goal pursued by Israel and its behind-the-scene forces.

    After all, the Zionists are committing heinous crimes, regarding not only the lives of Israeli hostages but also the lives of millions of Palestinians as victims of the Jewish state’s wild ambition for territorial annexation and hostages for realizing their ambition to dominate the Middle East.

    The Jewish state’s crime to make peace in the Middle East and the rest of the world a sacrifice for realizing its expansionist ambition can never be tolerated. -0-

    http://kcna.kp/en/article/q/389b4b6d4d92a66d210125543c87c1d66c3374d57fd1d0c2497ff4e3c03f4218.kcmsf


  • Aria@lemmygrad.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlBased
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    For those who are happy about this

    It’s obviously a joke.

    North Korea regarding Israel as an illegal state is real, but it’s not news. They’ve been calling for it to be dismantled and restructured into Palestine since 1989.