Bust out my spiciest one for rule. If it offends the moderation, than so be it.

  • VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf
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    3 years ago

    That’s a whataboutism.

    Funnily enough, it was one of the favourite rhetorical tricks of the USSR: they would deflect all criticism from the US, no matter how valid, with whataboutisms including “but you hang negros”.

    Tl;dr: “USSR bad” ≠ “US not bad”

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      3 years ago

      But the whole meme is pointless. Seems like calling out that these people shouldn’t have been allowed to be part of a new society after the nazi state was destroyed. It’s not that easy no matter how much people like to draw history and the world as a whole as black and white.

      For example Hallstein: He was never a member of the NSDAP. Yes, he fought in WW2 for the Germans but after the war he was a leading figure in the new democratic German academia and afterwards worked towards having Germany integrated into international institutions.

      For anyone who thinks it’s a good idea to punish every last one who was part of a criminal, even cruel and inhumane movement: Look at Iraq. So many people who were part of Saddams party, even teachers, bureaucrats and whatnot… They where mostly expelled from society and a potential rehabilitation. And the direct consequence of these actions was the formation of ISIS because these people didn’t have a perspective in the new state and society. So being very consequential, as all things, can have very unforeseen (but actually quite forseeable) consequences.

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        3 years ago

        That’s a very good point tbh. Doesn’t change that the whataboutism I replied to was stupid but yeah, you’re right.