You’re aware the House of Trade fire happened over 10 years ago right, not during the war?
And if there’s any stories about Ukraine deliberately targeting civilians, please share
The current stage of the war is an escalation of the war that began in 2014 with the Banderite coup. After the coup, a civil war ensued, with the Kiev faction shelling civilians in the Donbass region, where the seperatists were concentrated.
Here’s western orgs urging Kiev to settle down with the war crimes.
OK? Thank you for the context, but I still don’t seem to remember ‘liberals’ cheering the fire on
Liberals generally sided with the Banderites, as they were firmly anti-Russia as well as anti-soviet. Neither socialist nor capitalist Russia is acceptable for the Banderites.
I’m in the tankie and Stalinist part of the site aren’t I
This is your response when you see facts you don’t like? Here’s a 2021 article on Biden’s support for Ukraine before Russia invaded:
Zelensky observed that Biden “knows Ukraine better than the previous president” and “will really help strengthen relations, help settle the war in Donbas, and end the occupation of our territory.”
Note the acknowledgement that there was already a war on.
While Zelensky’s comments may prove overly optimistic, there is little reason to doubt that the Biden presidency will be good for Ukraine… Whether Biden, who will face many demands on his time, will choose to engage personally is a different question. He knows Ukraine, having traveled there six times when he served as vice president.
To be fair to rank-and-file Democrats, I’m sure they largely didn’t know about the Banderite problem in Ukraine, if only because they probably paid little attention to the country as a whole. But the presence of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine was certainly no secret. The Biden administration definitely knew the situation.
“Tankie”? OH you mean the real communists! Yes youre on a community on lemmy.ml marxist instance, if youre here to just spread liberal talking points, you can go back to lib.world or even better, back to reddit
I am, don’t worry, I enjoy my socialism with a dose of reality
Covering your eyes and returning to your safe haven echo chamber rather than challenging your assumptions is quite the opposite of a “dose of reality.” It’s like a creationist saying “I’m in the Darwinist part of the site, aren’t I? Don’t worry, I’m going back to my bible group because I enjoy my biology with a dose of reality.”
That’s cool, so what are your thoughts on the 2014 Donbas war?
So let me get this straight: you ask for sources to claims that challenge your misconceptions, then proceed to removed about the source, then removed about the people answering you, and finally proceeding to call the people you engage with delusional? are you actually for fucking real bro?
We all do, why are you acting like Marxists aren’t?
I enjoy my socialism with a dose of reality
Care to elaborate?
Please tell me about your “reality”.
Twelve years ago actually, during the US coup that replaced Ukraine’s democratically elected government with a Banderite nazi faction that immediately began an eight year ethnic cleansing campaign that killed fourteen thousand people.
You’re aware the House of Trade fire happened over 10 years ago right
And?
And if there’s any stories about Ukraine deliberately targeting civilians, please share
I take it you have never looked into it, as, among other cases, they literally struck a student dormitory and a civilian bus very recently.
Also, apart from the Ukrainian state targeting civilians, they have also very famously perfidiously used civilians/pretended military personnel to be civilians to carry out a drone strike last year.Russia Today?….
