The Document Foundation is the small non-profit entity behind LibreOffice. It oversees the project and community, and is now expanding with new developer roles. So let’s say hello to Dan Williams, who joins the team to work on design and user interface (UI) improvements, with an initial focus on macOS: Tell us a bit about […]
excited to see what this means for the project, the poor UI/UX of libreoffice is easily its most glaring flaw imo
I never tried looking into UI options, I use just OnlyOffice nowadays but LibreOffice should consider turning that on by default if it’s an option.
OnlyOffice also has a 10/10 screen when you open it, instantly asking whether you want to open a text document, PDF, make a slideshow etc. It’s just very polished and they actually put effort into the UI.
I don’t think LibreOffice is ‘bad’ either, the functionality is great and the foss license is superior to Onlyoffice
But when I compare it to Word and OnlyOffice (especially OnlyOffice since it’s free and open source) it lacks that polish and good default settings.
Not everything has to be to be VIM, good defaults are very important especially for novice users. And OnlyOffice has understood that very well.
I would like for LibreOffice to succeed. Therefore I hope they take some design cues from OnlyOffice or have a good UI developer even come up with something better. Basically I hope the guy in the post is going to town and heavily modernizes the current default LibreOffice layout.
So, you compare classic menus in one of them with a ribbon menu in the other? Don’t you know how to compare? Do you also compare car speeds with one driving in reverse and the other i 5th gear?
It kinda doesn’t? The first time you open a file (because let’s be honest we don’t open the program itself usually) 4 popups show up, which you close because you want to see the damn file, and then the UI change is all gone.
Having the user click some buttons from popups on the first launch to enable the good UI is bad UX. Simple as.
I’ll give you an example since you clearly don’t understand heuristics.
Look how OnlyOffice highlights selected buttons with a light gray tint.
LibreOffice on the other hand highlights them with very strong blue color, which draws the users attention and distracts them from the document.
There are many more very bad design choices that LibreOffice makes, but it’s just a cluttered mess in general and can really put in some work to hide away all those buttons. Yes if you know where they are and use them every single day then it’s more efficient, but it takes up a lot of (mind) space to see all those buttons all the time.
Oh, so in a colorful toolbar, you are distracted by a single color? Sounds like an ADHD issue, and not a real world one. I have never seen or heard anyone but you say (Oh, I really can’t work with this, I’m soooo distracted by the light blueish color that is behind the selected option)…
Here’s a pro tip. You can change the color of the selected option in you menu. You can even chose different themes that changes that. I’m sorry to hear, that this is a dealbreaker for you. I surely hope that you’ll stay away from LO or other free software, because you are too fragile to use them anyways.
It seems like a you problem, that you can’t function in an app that highlights the current chosen option with a light bluish color. 🙃
Oh, BTW, I know a lot of people using LO, that hasn’t got perfect vision. They would not be able to navigate in a toolbar where there only is a slight shift in the light of a color. It’s perfectly good UI design to make it the way LO does…
There’s clearly plenty people in this very post complaining about the UI/UX of LO as being bad. You can have anecdotal examples of people liking it but I bet most of the ones that don’t also have more examples.
Of course that it’s a us problem. Problem is, us is the huge majority, and if the huge majority thinks that the UI is bad, it kinda is…
The insane amount of clutter. Compare LibreOffice to OnlyOffice
tbf you are not using the tabbed ui in LO. it improves things quite a bunch.
I never tried looking into UI options, I use just OnlyOffice nowadays but LibreOffice should consider turning that on by default if it’s an option.
OnlyOffice also has a 10/10 screen when you open it, instantly asking whether you want to open a text document, PDF, make a slideshow etc. It’s just very polished and they actually put effort into the UI.
it usually asks you the first time you run it, but people sometimes gloss over it because they are just used to closing nag screens.
yeah, libreoffice is sufficient but it could very much use some polish. i hope this news means we get an improvement.
I don’t think LibreOffice is ‘bad’ either, the functionality is great and the foss license is superior to Onlyoffice
But when I compare it to Word and OnlyOffice (especially OnlyOffice since it’s free and open source) it lacks that polish and good default settings.
Not everything has to be to be VIM, good defaults are very important especially for novice users. And OnlyOffice has understood that very well.
I would like for LibreOffice to succeed. Therefore I hope they take some design cues from OnlyOffice or have a good UI developer even come up with something better. Basically I hope the guy in the post is going to town and heavily modernizes the current default LibreOffice layout.
They are comparable. Three bars with icons, normally you don’t have that vertical window on the right.
It looks dated for sure, but it’s not that cluttered.
So, you compare classic menus in one of them with a ribbon menu in the other? Don’t you know how to compare? Do you also compare car speeds with one driving in reverse and the other i 5th gear?
LibreOffice is always this cluttered. It’s an outdated mess of a GUI.
I guess you don’t know how to set it up, even though it takes your hand and shows you. That’s just sad… :-)
It kinda doesn’t? The first time you open a file (because let’s be honest we don’t open the program itself usually) 4 popups show up, which you close because you want to see the damn file, and then the UI change is all gone.
Having the user click some buttons from popups on the first launch to enable the good UI is bad UX. Simple as.
I’ll give you an example since you clearly don’t understand heuristics.
Look how OnlyOffice highlights selected buttons with a light gray tint.
LibreOffice on the other hand highlights them with very strong blue color, which draws the users attention and distracts them from the document.
There are many more very bad design choices that LibreOffice makes, but it’s just a cluttered mess in general and can really put in some work to hide away all those buttons. Yes if you know where they are and use them every single day then it’s more efficient, but it takes up a lot of (mind) space to see all those buttons all the time.
Oh, so in a colorful toolbar, you are distracted by a single color? Sounds like an ADHD issue, and not a real world one. I have never seen or heard anyone but you say (Oh, I really can’t work with this, I’m soooo distracted by the light blueish color that is behind the selected option)…
Here’s a pro tip. You can change the color of the selected option in you menu. You can even chose different themes that changes that. I’m sorry to hear, that this is a dealbreaker for you. I surely hope that you’ll stay away from LO or other free software, because you are too fragile to use them anyways.
Oh so after getting valid examples of objectively bad UI design you start complaining?
It seems like a you problem, that you can’t function in an app that highlights the current chosen option with a light bluish color. 🙃
Oh, BTW, I know a lot of people using LO, that hasn’t got perfect vision. They would not be able to navigate in a toolbar where there only is a slight shift in the light of a color. It’s perfectly good UI design to make it the way LO does…
There’s clearly plenty people in this very post complaining about the UI/UX of LO as being bad. You can have anecdotal examples of people liking it but I bet most of the ones that don’t also have more examples.
Of course that it’s a us problem. Problem is, us is the huge majority, and if the huge majority thinks that the UI is bad, it kinda is…