Exactly people really dont care about privacy nowadays , even calling us thin foil thats. Just look at the republican states asking Facebook to share messages about abortion with a mom and her daughter.
I think there’s some nuance there too. I’m not keen on the idea of my facebook messages, or google chats, or private emails, things like that going into other peoples hands (regardless of how much I can do to stop it), but purely ad-based stuff doesn’t bother me. I’m gonna be seeing ads for something, and whether or not they’re things google or amazon think I might want doesn’t really change the equation for me.
However, I do hold it to be true people should be in control of that if they want to. I feel like the choice is important.
Then sell all your shit and live without any device connected to the internet. If you believe a trillion dollar company can’t track what you like then I’ve got bad news for you.
Oh wait, even if you sell your shit, they just need to know who your friends are and they can create a profile of you… Woops! 🤷
What’s funny is that you’re trusting a bunch of random Lemmy hosts right now, but not companies that can be identified and that you can tell which laws apply to them.
Lemm.ee is hosted by an individual completely run on donations. He is transparent, open about his identity, and contributes to the community. It is ridiculous to compare him to an advertisement firm. One cannot deal with privacy in absolutes; it is misguided to think you cannot make trade offs while living a relatively private life.
I’m not sure the reason for your passive aggression. I am not expecting the developer to give his product away for free, I have paid for sync three times. I simply want a reasonable option to avoid subscriptions and targeted advertisements.
To address what you said:
A compromised instance would be publicized on this very forum and it would signal me to move to another instance. That’s the beauty of federation.
Do not expect anyone to protect you from the authorities. If you have sensitive data, encrypt it yourself and keep it offline.
An advertising firm that monitors your scroll rate, your retention rate, the advertisements you look at the longest, your hobbies, and your interests while serving you ads within the app itself can be avoided by simply…using a different app.
I just think the privacy crowd is mostly wackos that believe in the privacy fairy, that’s all 🤷 Taking tons of measures to not have their data seen by others but still participating in public forums… If your privacy is so important then stay offline.
Is it really so obscene to be willing to share one thing and not share another?
When you go into work, you may share your music taste or hobbies. But you do not tell everyone your sexual preferences and kinks. That itself is exercising your right to privacy. If you go on my profile you can find my music taste or political beliefs, but do you know what porn I have looked at or even if I have looked at it? You don’t. What happens when the advertiser now has access to everything you have clicked or even just slowed your scroll speed to just take a glimpse at?
You mistake (best case scenario) a desire for privacy with perfect anonymity. It is perfectly sane to wish to engage in public discourse without being milked by ad companies. The fact that most platforms make this stupidly difficult is no reason to dismiss everything we say as nonsense. Do get a grip, please.
Wtf are you talking about? No one its exempt from authorities search , if a government wants you they will find you. We are against companies!! Not governments. You just want to be against open source free software if you want to pay for an app go ahead but stop minimizing people that wants privacy.
Anti capitalism? I dont want companies tracking me. I dont care about capitalism or not. I hate when companies track me , and when they go against innovation , freedom for the consumer to choose, and create monopolies. Monopolies are not part of capitalism , that kills competition and the free market.
I am self hosting my instance , how ignorant you can be. And even if I have my account on a server do you think a regular person would care or have the capacity to create a profile on me. I do believe a trillion company can track me and its not 100% but the less they have the better. Also why does it matter to you? Fuck off. Laws? No law can apply to this coporporations.
Its not crazy to not want to be tracked and profiled by an ad company
Exactly people really dont care about privacy nowadays , even calling us thin foil thats. Just look at the republican states asking Facebook to share messages about abortion with a mom and her daughter.
I think there’s some nuance there too. I’m not keen on the idea of my facebook messages, or google chats, or private emails, things like that going into other peoples hands (regardless of how much I can do to stop it), but purely ad-based stuff doesn’t bother me. I’m gonna be seeing ads for something, and whether or not they’re things google or amazon think I might want doesn’t really change the equation for me.
However, I do hold it to be true people should be in control of that if they want to. I feel like the choice is important.
Then sell all your shit and live without any device connected to the internet. If you believe a trillion dollar company can’t track what you like then I’ve got bad news for you.
Oh wait, even if you sell your shit, they just need to know who your friends are and they can create a profile of you… Woops! 🤷
What’s funny is that you’re trusting a bunch of random Lemmy hosts right now, but not companies that can be identified and that you can tell which laws apply to them.
Lemm.ee is hosted by an individual completely run on donations. He is transparent, open about his identity, and contributes to the community. It is ridiculous to compare him to an advertisement firm. One cannot deal with privacy in absolutes; it is misguided to think you cannot make trade offs while living a relatively private life.
Lemm.ee’s host is such a nice dude, I don’t think he’d sell people out either.
Individuals can’t be corrupted in exchange for money, good to know 👍
I’m sure they would also protect your data with their life if authorities came knocking.
I’m not sure the reason for your passive aggression. I am not expecting the developer to give his product away for free, I have paid for sync three times. I simply want a reasonable option to avoid subscriptions and targeted advertisements.
To address what you said:
A compromised instance would be publicized on this very forum and it would signal me to move to another instance. That’s the beauty of federation.
Do not expect anyone to protect you from the authorities. If you have sensitive data, encrypt it yourself and keep it offline.
An advertising firm that monitors your scroll rate, your retention rate, the advertisements you look at the longest, your hobbies, and your interests while serving you ads within the app itself can be avoided by simply…using a different app.
I just think the privacy crowd is mostly wackos that believe in the privacy fairy, that’s all 🤷 Taking tons of measures to not have their data seen by others but still participating in public forums… If your privacy is so important then stay offline.
Is it really so obscene to be willing to share one thing and not share another?
When you go into work, you may share your music taste or hobbies. But you do not tell everyone your sexual preferences and kinks. That itself is exercising your right to privacy. If you go on my profile you can find my music taste or political beliefs, but do you know what porn I have looked at or even if I have looked at it? You don’t. What happens when the advertiser now has access to everything you have clicked or even just slowed your scroll speed to just take a glimpse at?
You mistake (best case scenario) a desire for privacy with perfect anonymity. It is perfectly sane to wish to engage in public discourse without being milked by ad companies. The fact that most platforms make this stupidly difficult is no reason to dismiss everything we say as nonsense. Do get a grip, please.
Wtf are you talking about? No one its exempt from authorities search , if a government wants you they will find you. We are against companies!! Not governments. You just want to be against open source free software if you want to pay for an app go ahead but stop minimizing people that wants privacy.
Oh so it’s anti capitalism now? So it’s ok to let any random stranger have your data as long as it’s not big data hoarder? 🤔
Anti capitalism? I dont want companies tracking me. I dont care about capitalism or not. I hate when companies track me , and when they go against innovation , freedom for the consumer to choose, and create monopolies. Monopolies are not part of capitalism , that kills competition and the free market.
I am self hosting my instance , how ignorant you can be. And even if I have my account on a server do you think a regular person would care or have the capacity to create a profile on me. I do believe a trillion company can track me and its not 100% but the less they have the better. Also why does it matter to you? Fuck off. Laws? No law can apply to this coporporations.
Would love to see you GDPR your data from all instances 😂
Not important data at all. Probably my ip address not relevant to me.