Banning it here will just move it to China. I think I would rather see them regulate it to be as ethical as possible instead of just banning it outright. Our modern society requires these experiments and healthcanada requires them to be done for approvals, so we should be working within that framework to be as kind to animals as possible instead of just offshoring the practice.
This is actually not true. If you ban it here AND remove the Health Canada requirement for testing on higher order animals, there is no need to do that research. It doesn’t even correlate that well with human health outcomes. Ban the practice and remove the incentive, and I guarantee you that the behaviour will go away.
The FDA already removed its requirement for testing on higher order mammals – mouse work is sufficient to get an investigational new drug (IND) permit, or an equivalent permit for a medical device. I suspect Health Canada has done the same, but I’m not 100% sure – if not, it absolutely should. I’d rather have marginally more risk to human participants that generates useful, applicable data, than perform countless cruel experiments that poorly correlate with human biology.
Yeah, that’s what I’m saying, but dropping the Health Canada requirement has to come first. And when you do drop the Health Canada requirement, which species are you going to decide are the ones that have to die or suffer for us to get drugs made? Because if none do, then humans do.
I think this whole topic is a bit of a distraction. I’m all for ending animal suffering, but his ban wouldn’t.
His ban will force Health Canada to consider the issue, and may accelerate them making similar decisions as the FDA, on reducing this practice altogether.
We can’t be responsible for what other people do. Other people doing bad things does not justify us continuing to do bad things. We could stop importing and consuming the products of animal cruelty and violence. It’s easy, you could do it yourself. Please go vegan.
Banning it here will just move it to China. I think I would rather see them regulate it to be as ethical as possible instead of just banning it outright. Our modern society requires these experiments and healthcanada requires them to be done for approvals, so we should be working within that framework to be as kind to animals as possible instead of just offshoring the practice.
This is actually not true. If you ban it here AND remove the Health Canada requirement for testing on higher order animals, there is no need to do that research. It doesn’t even correlate that well with human health outcomes. Ban the practice and remove the incentive, and I guarantee you that the behaviour will go away.
The FDA already removed its requirement for testing on higher order mammals – mouse work is sufficient to get an investigational new drug (IND) permit, or an equivalent permit for a medical device. I suspect Health Canada has done the same, but I’m not 100% sure – if not, it absolutely should. I’d rather have marginally more risk to human participants that generates useful, applicable data, than perform countless cruel experiments that poorly correlate with human biology.
Yeah, that’s what I’m saying, but dropping the Health Canada requirement has to come first. And when you do drop the Health Canada requirement, which species are you going to decide are the ones that have to die or suffer for us to get drugs made? Because if none do, then humans do.
I think this whole topic is a bit of a distraction. I’m all for ending animal suffering, but his ban wouldn’t.
His ban will force Health Canada to consider the issue, and may accelerate them making similar decisions as the FDA, on reducing this practice altogether.
We can’t be responsible for what other people do. Other people doing bad things does not justify us continuing to do bad things. We could stop importing and consuming the products of animal cruelty and violence. It’s easy, you could do it yourself. Please go vegan.
I do find it funny that someone who famously loves pepperoni pizza all the sudden loves animals. Feels like a distraction.
Everything he says on constituent-facing platforms is a distraction from his actual agendas.