Easy there it’s not correct to say it is nothing but a distraction, if you make it the focus of your project for sure, but however possible we should try to make the changes possible that would help the working class, but of course that does not mean to adhere to their program but it is important to look at what improvements can be achieved. But never celebrating these folks as heroes or celebrating as a magnificent win it is a small comfort but far from the cure, and can distract, but can bring about some degree of help, the important part is to know that however much help that is, it’s always woefully insufficient. But help should never be discarded completely, even if ultimately in many cases we refuse the instances of incrementalism it’s important to know that it comes with a cost, because much of the people who would benefit a little right now, cannot see the possibility of a revolution ever working, but they want some improvement, in such case being against incrementalism can have a very significant impact on gathering support of who we most need on our side.
Of course, we want people to suffer less under capitalism. But the hope of incremental improvement stands in the way of addressing the root of the problem. Incrementalism can only provide a temporary relief from the increasing tensions between the ruling and working classes. History has shown that the wealthy may grant workers certain concessions in the short term, but these will be largely revoked or circumvented in search of greater profits later on. What’s worse, the rulers then devise better strategies to distract the people, redirect their frustrations, and suppress insurrections. Half-measures reassure us that the system is “working” while the ruling class better their position.
For the aforementioned reasons, working within the system is playing into the capitalists’ hands. Instead, we must advocate for forms of mutual aid to address the burdens of capitalism. If we can build community, then we help people suffering under capitalism, decrease our dependence on the government, and increase our political base. Ironically, it is much easier to band together when there is a greater need. And when the greed of the wealthy have impacted the material conditions of the workers so acutely that the exploitation is staring them in the face, we will have laid the grassroots foundation for real change.
Yeah I think we are in agreement comrade, I just like to point out this things when I see a post on the subject because I’ve seen far too much people associate any attempt of improving the now (from the part of any socialist individual or organization) with a commitment with a inherently reformist agenda, so I like to leave the more expanded idea when I see a short communication about it, just to promote the broader vision a little
Easy there it’s not correct to say it is nothing but a distraction, if you make it the focus of your project for sure, but however possible we should try to make the changes possible that would help the working class, but of course that does not mean to adhere to their program but it is important to look at what improvements can be achieved. But never celebrating these folks as heroes or celebrating as a magnificent win it is a small comfort but far from the cure, and can distract, but can bring about some degree of help, the important part is to know that however much help that is, it’s always woefully insufficient. But help should never be discarded completely, even if ultimately in many cases we refuse the instances of incrementalism it’s important to know that it comes with a cost, because much of the people who would benefit a little right now, cannot see the possibility of a revolution ever working, but they want some improvement, in such case being against incrementalism can have a very significant impact on gathering support of who we most need on our side.
Of course, we want people to suffer less under capitalism. But the hope of incremental improvement stands in the way of addressing the root of the problem. Incrementalism can only provide a temporary relief from the increasing tensions between the ruling and working classes. History has shown that the wealthy may grant workers certain concessions in the short term, but these will be largely revoked or circumvented in search of greater profits later on. What’s worse, the rulers then devise better strategies to distract the people, redirect their frustrations, and suppress insurrections. Half-measures reassure us that the system is “working” while the ruling class better their position.
For the aforementioned reasons, working within the system is playing into the capitalists’ hands. Instead, we must advocate for forms of mutual aid to address the burdens of capitalism. If we can build community, then we help people suffering under capitalism, decrease our dependence on the government, and increase our political base. Ironically, it is much easier to band together when there is a greater need. And when the greed of the wealthy have impacted the material conditions of the workers so acutely that the exploitation is staring them in the face, we will have laid the grassroots foundation for real change.
Yeah I think we are in agreement comrade, I just like to point out this things when I see a post on the subject because I’ve seen far too much people associate any attempt of improving the now (from the part of any socialist individual or organization) with a commitment with a inherently reformist agenda, so I like to leave the more expanded idea when I see a short communication about it, just to promote the broader vision a little
Ah, I think I understand your position better now. Fair point.