• InternetCitizen2@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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    2 years ago

    Yeah, he is too old, but the only other alternative is Trump (also too old) and his maga ideology. No thanks, I’ll take grandpa Joe.

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      2 years ago

      This is the problem with american people. You look between those two shits and go “well i guess this one stinks less”. But also youre supposed to have weapons in order to oppose a bad government or something. Learn something from the french. Revolution is an increasingly viable option

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      2 years ago

      No, that isn’t the only alternative. For most States the primary still hasn’t happened!

      Why do you believe Biden is the only alternative?

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        I understand what you mean, and people should get a chance to vote in the primaries for the person who they think is best, but Biden is the incumbent, and he’s out there winning primaries with like >85% of the vote. Hell, he even won the write-in campaign in Iowa. ( That’s to say nothing of him winning against more than a dozen other, younger candidates in 2020. ) Marianne Williamson is the only other candidate to regularly crack 1%, and she’s not exactly “president material” if you ask me.

        It’s going to Biden vs Trump. Two old ass white dudes who aren’t exactly sharp (though Trump is most certainly dumber, weirder and not to mention a fucking criminal fascist). For me, that makes it the easiest choice of my year.

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      2 years ago

      The bipartisan system in works everyone, and the biggest loser is the working man.

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      2 years ago

      How the fuck do you look at this and go “Hmm yes I’ll vote, this system is totally working”? This isn’t a democracy. Your only option is a senile zionazi puppet leader.

      Even the french understood what to do in this situation. There are already leftist orgs you can join which aim to take power over this thinly-veiled oligarchy.

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        2 years ago

        No one thinks the system is working. The losers say it’s rigged, the winners beleive they’re lucky they won in a broken system, and the winners eventually become losers anyway. So yeah, the left wants better candidates but the shit part about being on the left, on any progressive front, is that we can’t all agree on what’s most important so we get stuck with limp, neutrally progressive candidates as an average of our interests. The right, the don’t-change or even regressive side, has it so much easier. Just vote for a crybaby that stomps his foot saying “no” to his greens. Even if they debate between Trump or Christie or Haley, whoever, they’ll still have an easier time just undoing whatever that black guy or the junkie’s dad did.

        So yeah, we keep voting at the final game for the wet towel because we saw how easy it was for the other side to start ripping into democracy. We saw what happens when progressives boycott the vote because their favorite candidate didn’t win the primary. We saw what happens when half the country argues about turning left, right, staying straight, or maybe even going up while the conservatives only debate about hitting the brakes or throwing it in reverse. We don’t have ranked choice or any other better system than FPTP so here we are

        Edit:rugged>rigged

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      2 years ago

      Honestly, show me a young president who also wouldn’t make occasional mistakes. Biden makes mistakes but Trump is full-on delusional.

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          What’s annoying in this situation is that the Republicans love Israel, back them in the war and want to send weapons to them in droves. This means that Joe, being more of a moderate/centrist wins favor and likely votes from their side by doing so.

          But it also means if we don’t agree with that, we can’t vote Republican either because it’ll likely be worse.

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            Republicans love Israel, back them in the war and want to send weapons to them in droves

            Ah, another thing they agree with Biden on, how nice.

            Biden is not “more of a moderate”, he’s openly been a zionazi his whole career, and why the fuck is anyone looking at a genocide and going “well it could always be worse”?

            Well it’s not wrong ig, the core of the imperial core can indeed always be worse. And it’s not going to get better by voting; that’ll happen by organizing and mass movement.

            The US (and all capitalist nations’ tbf) political system only exists to protect capital. Anyone put in power through it showing even the slightest anti-imperialist sentiment (like JFK for wanting to abolish the CIA and giving an anti-colonial speech) will result in their swift removal. It can only shift further to the right.