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  • I was just looking into this a bit more, “managed to get out appropriately” is potentially actually going through the bollard after it fucked up.

    It broke the law going in there, but reversing through the intersection (crosswalk) to get out is also against the law in Austin and many many places.

    I know a lot of people do it (and I think I’ve seen a Tesla do it before too) but if you’re stopped at an intersection and you fuck up and are slightly in the crosswalk, you’re in most places, not allowed to back up. If you back up, you could actually be cited for 2 infractions, one blocking the intersection, and then another for the backing up. (edit: and in this case, it’s just a matter of property damage if they go over it, and they’re plastic because they know people will hit them, which is also sad)

    I really doubt the car was smart of enough to realize I’m not allowed to reverse, and i could safely drive over this though. I think something else in its decision making process happened with failures all over the place.

    I can’t wait to see what the NHSTA report on this one says, hopefully there’s some meaningful info in it.

    Maybe we’ll even hear it called home for help and a person drove it over? There was one report where a support person remotely drove it into a chain at slow speed.


  • Im not saying it should, and in this case and have clearly said what it did was wrong.

    Im just trying to reason out how or why something like that may have happened, and at first bad map data seemed like it could be part of it wtf went wrong. (edit: even OP said they looked into it, implying they thought that might be a factor too!)

    Road says go right. Oh shit its tight but I can make it. Im fucked. YOLO!!!

    And yes, it shouldn’t have ignored the bicycle signage or the white line.

    Have you never driven around a construction local traffic road only sign that gets placed in the middle of the road or blocking a lane? AVs need to be able to do weird things like this, but in the correct situations, which this was not.


  • It did take the obstacles into account though at first. It was going very slowly and managed to squeeze itself into that bad spot, before ultimately realizing it was stuck and deciding to go over them once it had gone too far (I would love to know how the fuck it decided to do that last part though)

    What it didn’t take into account from the start was the white line or bike lane sign, but those first bollards on their own it made it past.

    If it had bad navigation data, that could have conceivably played a part, but bad map data seems less likely given there’s an image of that intersection from 2024.

    Everything about this was still very bad obviously, but even if it wasn’t the case here, bad map data could get you into a bad situation like that if you can drive between the initial bollards.






  • Jobs are always going to be replaced by new technology and falling back to omg the jobs, as a means to prevent technology from advancing isnt the right way to think about things.

    Maybe you should move to NJ so someone can pump your gas for you, or only buy from farms that hand pick everything.

    Ive been in so many taxis driven by humans and feared for my saftey. People have been assaulted by drivers. The AVs can see all around them and will ultimately be definitively safer than a human can ever be. People are terrible drivers as seen by the immense death (1.16 million people in 2025) and destruction we cause behind the wheel.

    Does anyone actually have the perfect AV right now? No. But they will figure it out.

    Edit: clarity, but also dont forget taxi drivers who scam people by taking longer routes, ive also had my share of having to call them out at times when they think im a tourist.