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  • Where did you get this definition of socialism from? There’s no such thing as as socialism that allows for capitalist ownership of the means of production; if a socialist says it’s fine, they’re not a socialist.

    The distinction between socialism and communism is well known and studied. The key differences are:

    Communism:

    All property is communally owned, and each person receives a portion based on need. In practice, a strong central government—the state—controls all aspects of economic production and provides citizens with their basic necessities, including food, housing, medical care and education.

    Socialism:

    individuals can still own property. But industrial production, or the chief means of generating wealth, is communally owned and managed by a democratically elected government.

    You can find the basis of my quotes here, on the history channel’s very own website. You can also see the clear distinction in Europe’s current Democratic Socialism vs. Russia’s Communist stuff.



  • Who is advocating workers controlling the means of production?

    That would be communism, not socialism. Lennonist communism is where the workers control the means of production in a collectivist but decentralized manner (Stalinist communism is where the state (Stalin) controls the means of production). Socialism is where the capitalists are allowed to maximize profit all they want (hell they keep most of that under the socialist model), but society guarantees a minimal quality of life (the social bit) by taxing the capitalists to ensure a base-level of universal health-insurance and/or housing for the masses.

    Basically, socialism is the logical conclusion of FDR’s New Deal.